Fahrenheit 9/11 was absolutely AMAZING. There's no way to describe the impact of this film. A person can only go and see for themselves. I can say that Moore did an excellent job of letting most of the footage speak for itself, though he did make a couple of cheap shots. But they add humor and the real stuff that matters is clear as day.
When I left the theatre I felt both astonished and sad. Really, really sad. I cried several times during the movie. The kind of tears that don't make a sound, they don't even jerk on you from the inside. They just roll, irrepressibly down your cheeks. Seeing footage of the faces of people on the street looking up at the World Trade Center after the planes hit. That really brought up a lot of intense memories and emotions. Seeing a man in Iraq throwing a dead child into the back of a truck full of bodies. Seeing the violence and terror in the street that we brought there. People being blown up. Seeing the faces of soldiers. Just kids. Talking about feeling scared and unsure of why they are really there. Not wanting to die, but knowing that the chances are pretty good. Seeing a mother from a big military family, suffering the loss of her son in Iraq and falling apart with grief. Asking why. Asking what her son died for. Reading his last letter. So many times I was brought to tears.
Other times, there was so much laughter. So much irony. It was extremely well done. So, Michael Moore, thank you for your contribution to the awareness of others. This movie will go down in history.
Posted by Maria at June 26, 2004 01:33 PMThe only thing disturbing is all the barking moonbats that lap his bullshit up like it's reality.
The man's an entertainer with a fat bank account.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 27, 2004 02:50 PMYeah, I guess he made up all of that footage. But how can you, asshole, crtique a film you haven;t seen and I can safely assume, will never see?
I guess a lot of people are "moonbats" because they strong disagree with justr about every stance of this administration. I guess the disenfranchised republicans who have balls to stand up for what they beleive are "moonbats" too because they think Bush is a fucking train wreck.
The only "moonbats" around here is you "gordon."
Posted by: Nunya at June 27, 2004 04:29 PMThe old adage "the truth hurts" appears to apply here to the conjoined triplets Gordon/Geoffrey/Jonathan...
Pity the sheep being led to slaughter Nunya. The damage is done and no amount of carnage and reality will sway them from miopathy.
Posted by: Richard at June 28, 2004 12:10 AMIt seems I have struck a nerve with Maria's Leper Colony.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 02:56 AMHave you in fact seen the movie, Gordon?
Posted by: cul at June 28, 2004 05:32 AMNo, he hasn't, otherwise he would have screamed that he did. Now, he can only revert to junior high insults and dimwitted comments.
Like I said, "gordon" see the film first before listening to what the repugs have said about it.
Posted by: Nunya at June 28, 2004 10:47 AMIt's called spellcheck NeoCUNT. It's a spelling aid to assist people like yourself who are incapable of "Junior High" level spelling. Try using it you stupid fuck.
Cul,
No I haven't. I've seen various clips and read several reviews.
I'm undecided. I'd like to see it, but I hate giving cash to Fatty. I probably will, though.
Supposedly, "the truth hurts" isn't entirely accurate. There's a great bit of fiction rolled in.
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 28, 2004 03:40 PMAnd how do you know this "goeffrey" since you haven't seen it yet?
Does people a favor and don't go. Nobody wants to smell your stink in a movie theater.
(too bad you guys can't edit posts here or forge posts either)
Posted by: Nunya at June 28, 2004 05:46 PM"Does people a favor"?
You're so fucking stupid Neocunt. We've never edited your posts because like here, you make enough of an ass of yourself on your own.
I don't want to hear a word from anyone who hasn't seen it. Check yourself first, and remember how retarded you look when you speak with authority about things without having experienced them in order to have some reasonable basis for your opinion (reading articles about a movie and seeing chosen clips is in no way sufficient to judge. If you think it is, you are probably an idiot or an asshole, or both. That's like deciding you don't like a song before you've ever heard it or saying you don't like a painting before you've ever seen it, because you heard from someone else that it was crap. It's assinine.) If you've seen the movie, you're entitled to an opinion about the content therein. If you haven't seen it, probably best to just put a lid on it.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 08:47 PMGot your panties in a twist huh?
Let's use the same argyment at a greater scale and see what else you or I aren't qualified to speak of, hmm?
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 09:09 PMWell, that confirms it, you are an idiot, or an asshole, or both. But that's not really news. I make it a point to try very hard not to judge things that I am completely uninformed about. If you don't mind sounding like a moron, that's cool, but I try to avoid it by getting informed about things before forming hardened opinions about them. You just make yourself sound stupid. Go see the movie and then I'll listen to your informed opinion about it. Until then you're just another whining conservative who doesn't even know what the hell it is you are condemning, only that it's evil and liberal! Go on Gordie.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 09:19 PMNo Maria, it just disturbs you that other people don't think like you. I'm sorry I don't lap up Moore's spew like you. I'll be damned if I'd take a movie made by Rush Limbaugh too seriously either.
The fact that you take so much stock in Michael Moore's money grubbing movies speaks volumes of both your character and your INTELLIGENCE.
Really, I don't think you're qualified to speak on Iraq anyhow since you've never been there.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 09:23 PMI have seen both of the major documentaries Moore has made. And granted, he adds a little spice to things, most of what is in these films are cold hard facts and unedited footage. Like in Bowling for Col. - was it "propaganda" or "money grubbing" of moore to include footage of asshole Charlton Heston raising a rifle above his head only 2 weeks after the school shooting IN Colorado saying they will have to pry it out of his cold dead hands? I think not. Is it "liberal rhetoric" to see that while the percentage of gun owners in canada in relation to their population far out numbers ours, yet we have over 11,000 gun deaths a year in this country compared to their 364.
What bothers you, "gordon", and other chickenhawks, is not Moore himself. It bothers you that the truth in the numbers and the footage is put together coherently and to show the full effect of what lying, cheating, sadistic bastards that people like Bush and his cronies and people like YOU really are. See, you are an asshole like Maria says, but I don;t think you are a moron. I don;t think you are that blind to the fact on what REAL agenda the neocons are driving. You know EXACTLY what they are about and support any way they go about accomplishing their goals. You aren't stupid "gordon" you are just Evil.
I've rarely seen anyone take so much pride in their own ignorance.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 09:37 PMNow why don't you go forge comment by me over on your own toilet bowl of a blog about your own sick sexual fantasies.
Your spew is not wanted here.
Posted by: nunya at June 28, 2004 09:37 PMLike I said Maria, "gordon" is not ignorant. He knows exactly what the neocons are about and is all for it. Him and his sick jarhead chickenhawk buddies all want war war war, but are too pussified to go fight themselves.
Posted by: nunya at June 28, 2004 09:39 PMShe was referring to you Nunya.
BTW - Don't even talk about war or the military NeocUNT - you're not qualified.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 09:53 PMI don't want to hear a word from anyone who hasn't seen it. Check yourself first, and remember how retarded you look when you speak with authority about things without having experienced them in order to have some reasonable basis for your opinion
So you aren't allowed to have an opinion about things you've never experienced?
There goes your asshattery about the Iraq War.
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 28, 2004 10:18 PMUnderstanding under the first amendament dickhead moore has the right to make any movie he wants: My problem with Moore is he is as much an America hating American as has ever been born. His movies always point out things he feels are wrong with America, but Canada and others are so perfect...He distorts facts for his liking and his impish demeanor is phony and transparent. Moore's treason hasn't reached Hanoi Jane's stature, but if/when it does I hope he's punished the way fonda should have been.
Posted by: Chumley at June 28, 2004 10:22 PMStick to something you are qualified to discuss - like fetching coffee or taking calls.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 10:22 PMP.S. If they killed that Marine I hope my morning newspaper headline is, "Falluja is now a parking lot."
Posted by: chumley at June 28, 2004 10:25 PMchill out angry neighbour. We make our mistakes here north of your world. As Prime Minister Mercer has said, "we see how angry you get at enemies."
I'm convinced you are your own worst enemies.
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2004 10:40 PM"She was referring to you Nunya."
No I wasn't Gordon. I was referring to you.
"Stick to something you are qualified to discuss - like fetching coffee or taking calls."
That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Pot, kettle, black.
"So you aren't allowed to have an opinion about things you've never experienced?"
Geoffrey. I made it clear what I meant. Would you judge a painting without seeing it? A song without hearing it? So why would you judge a movie before watching it? Just admit it, that's ridiculous. At least I can say Rush Limbaugh is a fucking asshole because I've heard is crappy show. I can say I detest Bill O'Reilly because I've watched his crappy show. A person can't say they hate Moore's movie when they haven't even seen the fucking movie. That's ridiculous and you damn well know it Geoff.
Posted by: at June 28, 2004 10:42 PMI wonder what language Canada would be speaking today if it wasn't for America?
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 10:43 PMThe truth hurts. The only reason Bush supporters are so angry about this movie is because it exposes them for what they really are. If that weren't the case, they would lend it no credit. But I'm sure it's really burning the Bushies that this movie is absolutely on fire right now and practically every last showing is sold out. I'm sure that must be cause for a little worry for the right.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 10:46 PMHow's that the pot calling the kettle black?
That's calling them the way I see 'em just like you do.
You don't like it when someone plays your own game Maria.
As for your references to my not being qualified to form an opinion on the move, I'm still laughing my ass off.
What the hell are YOU actually qualified to speak of? Really?
Feminism? Yeah. Liberalism... yeah.
The War on Iraq? Fuck no.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 10:47 PMGordon you should strongly consider pulling your head out of your ass sometime.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 10:48 PMLikewise.
Good night Grumpy Smurf.
Posted by: Gordon at June 28, 2004 10:49 PMI'm qualified as a human being to decide whether or not I think it's okay to go and slaughter other human beings.
Posted by: Maria at June 28, 2004 10:50 PMGordon, please. You think Canada is here because of America? Do not ever make that assumption. It is arrogant and ill informed. We ALL got off the same boat from somewhere, brother.
Don't be so damned smug.
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2004 10:52 PMHa Ha! You spout off about America evryday on our blog donna and the one time I reproach you, you snap?
Lighten up Francis. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Simple fact. Were it not for the sacrifices made by the American People in WW1, WW2, and the Cold War - neither CANADA or Europe would be free nations today.
You've hid behind our skirt for over 100 years yet have the gaul to judge us?
Ha!
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 10:56 PMI'm just using your own rationale Maria. I never said I agreed with it.
Obviously you don't either.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 28, 2004 10:59 PMI do? who the fuck is francis? You ever comment on my blog? You ever read it? I talk about nothing of consequence.
You've no clue of Canadian history do you? What happened today in Canada?...and don't google.
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2004 11:03 PMIt's easy to have an opinion on a docufarce you've never seen.
First, you see other movies the guy has made. If the recurring method is fiction mixed with enough fact to make it seem true, you know what to expect from his new one.
Then, you look at other things he's done in the past and read takes on the film:
Faked an interview with Fred Barnes
Lied about the timing of the Saudi 9/11 flights
Moore's hired fact checkers: That said, Moore's fact-checkers said they do not view the film as straight reporting. "This is an op-ed piece, it's not a news report," said Chatillon. "This is not The New York Times, it's not a network news report."
etc etc.
After sifting through all that, you can make a fairly safe assumption that this is more of the same.
It may be entertaining. It may really grip you. One thing it doesn't do, however, is provide you with the facts.
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 29, 2004 08:52 AMDonna - "francis" from his oh so original line of "lighten up francis" was stolen from the movie stripes with Bill Murray. No need to repeat the scene - point made - "Gordon" is not only a smacked ass, he isn't even original.
Secondly, "Gordon", what makes YOU qualified to talk about war? You are fed the same news we are. You also never fought in one. Playing ps2 games does not count either. Having your host mind "geoffrey" make up war scenarios in his head does not count.
Chumley - go away. You are not wanted here. Just because "geoffrey" emails you to come over and "help him out" doesn't mean you have to do it. I am sure he will let you lick his asshole for free.
Now, to crawl out of the muck of their level and talk about adult things - I plan on seeing this movie either tonight or tomorrow. I have requested that the marketers of the film make some apparel for the film, because I plan to wear it on election day. And, after Kerry is elected, I plan to wear it regularly because we all know the GOP will be looking to create some dirt on him just like they did on Clinton.
Posted by: Nunya at June 29, 2004 09:14 AMNeoCunt, could you provide some facts to back up your assertion that Gordon and I have never fought in a war?
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 29, 2004 09:44 AMOnly after you provide me some facts that I have never served as you and "gordon" claim.
Posted by: Nunya at June 29, 2004 09:49 AMNunya, could you please provide some facts showing I said you never served?
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 29, 2004 01:32 PMNeocunt,
You stand corrected, again.
I said you've never seen any action, with exception to late night at rest areas.
donna,
what are you driving at here with your rant about Canadian history and how is it related to anything I said?
"Chumley - go away. You are not wanted here."
"Your spew is not wanted here."
and on and on.
It would seem Maria has a new frontman for her blog that decides who should and who shouldn't have the privelege of commenting here.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 29, 2004 05:33 PMTypical Liberal Nunya, tell me to "go away" because you're afraid someone may point out that reality is different than what's in your elitist head. Not to burst your bubble nunya, but you throw aspersions around about military service as if you know everything about Geoffrey. You couldn't be farther from the truth. Nunya as far as licking men's assholes, only a fag could be as delusional as you are so I think we ferreted out the ass-licker. Please wear a bullseye as your Anti-Bush attire.
Posted by: Chumley at June 29, 2004 05:45 PMPerhaps YOUR reality, cumley. But the rest of the non GOP world sees Bush and co. for what they really are - chickenhawks waging war for the benefit of their own and their friends bank accounts. Allowing kids to die so they can have a gateway to more oil, invading other countries to spew more neocon capitalism (which means as the old addage says - the rich get richer), and to promote a completly corrupted version of democracy that only makes it possible for profits to sore for them at the expense of everyone else, is not a very good "reality" to live in.
And Geoffrey, go look at older comments on your toilet bowl blog, and there are plenty of references to you and your alter egos saying I never served. Everyone already knows it so don't try to weasle out of this like you do everything else.
Gordon - I do not see maria arguing against me. Of course, everyone has a right to come here and argue their point, but I am sure she doesn't want the mindless alter egos of geoffrey coming here talkimg nothing but utter repugliKKKan garbage,.
Posted by: Nunya at June 29, 2004 07:29 PMNeoCUNT,
I think it's humorous that you've nominated youself as Maria's speaker, telling people who's cleared to post here. Are you her gatekeeper now?
As for your time in service, don't make me laugh.
What an insult to all those that have.
You've got more time in truck room stalls than you do in the Aremd Forces.
I think it's funny how pissed you are at conservatives for being so successful. You ought to be relived really. Without our taxes where would your handouts come from?
Deep down inside it bothers you to call people like me "Sir" and accept my personal checks after you mow my lawn.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at June 29, 2004 07:41 PMNeoCunt, I looked, I couldn't find them. If they are there, point them out.
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 29, 2004 07:42 PMI address the Canadian history issue due to your representation of Americans that Canada would not be free without America.
As for the language we would speak in Canada if not for Americans? Ojibway, Cree, or some Native tongue, I suspect. That is before you made Canada free, of course.
We'd be nothing without you. thank you bhudda.
Posted by: donna at June 29, 2004 09:21 PMWould you be something without us?
Sure.
Enslaved and poor or both.
Free? Nope... We have covered your ass for over a century. What language would you prefer? German? Russian? Japanese? Chinese in twenty years?
Financially sound? Nope. Close trade between our countries and see how fast Canda reels to the dark ages.
All in all you're a typical Canadian - unappreciative.
Again, day after day you take slams on America. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
I apologise, Gordon, on behalf of all Canadians. You are right. Once again.
Posted by: donna at June 30, 2004 12:25 AMNunya, Do you even live in the U.S.? I guess more specifically, are you actually implying that democracy in Iraq is worse than their life under Saddam? Please tell me you are. Clearly the reason their are so many fighters from other countries in Iraq is the whole fucking region is afraid 'any' democracy will take hold. I think Nunya enjoys sleeping under the flag of democracy while crying that it isn't just what he wants. Go live in most of africa and asia, and the perverted democracy of russia and then tell me how you like it here. Ohh yeah you'd be dead.
Posted by: Chumley at June 30, 2004 12:45 PMI am saying that our version of democracy (which has greatly changed from bad to wrose in the last 4 years) is not good for anyone but the rich.
I am not going into a big long post, but I am certain that we WILL fail over in Iraq in trying to instill a system that goes against what most of those people beleive.
Posted by: Nunya at June 30, 2004 06:15 PMFound those facts to back up your claims yet, NeoCunt?
Posted by: Geoffrey at June 30, 2004 09:35 PMYes, so produce the proof for YOUR claims now, Gayffrey.
Posted by: Nunya at July 1, 2004 09:23 AMPost them, then. I didn't make any claims.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 1, 2004 08:05 PMNeoCUNT is backing down again....
Have you ever stood behind anything you've said Nunya?
I love watching you backpedal everytime you are called out.
You stink of weakness.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at July 1, 2004 09:07 PMGeoff/Gordon - tell me what you are so afraid of?
Posted by: Nunya at July 2, 2004 07:18 PMWhose afraid? You lie, we call you on it, you avoid it. We're just laughing at you. You ready to post your "evidence" yet?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 3, 2004 08:32 AMAs soon as you post yours.
On real issues then - Maria, I saw the film last night and it did not surprise me or make me any more angry than I already am at the administration. There were very few facts in the film that I didn't already know about. But unlike Bowling for Columnbine, this film surprised me in the fact that Moore had much less commentary than in Bowling which makes Farenheit all the more damning to the Bush camp. I expected more Moore commentary, but the facts and footage spoke for Bush quite well. People like Geoff/Gordon can only argue the slant Moore puts on it to a very small degree - sure the film was slanted, everyone knows that going in, but the facts that are presented are from the horses mouths and nobody can argue that.
That said, there was a few republicans there who went in witha closed min but came out with a very different view of things. They too agreed it was biased but one said to me "I am sorry but I cannot argue many of the facts, it was an eye opener."
So Geoff/Gordon, before you go opening your sucks about things, why not go get educated first.
Posted by: Nunya at July 3, 2004 11:15 AMI went to school with "Fatty". He was a nothing then and a greater nothing now. Fools like you that put money in his pocket deserve the likes of him for all eternity.
Posted by: Mrs. Wood at July 3, 2004 05:48 PMWell said Mrs. Wood. I think it's funny that a good part of his film was about Bush's ties to Carlyle, when Moore himself does too.
NeoCunt, I didn't make any claims that I need to back up. You did. As usual, though, you're back pedaling because you lied......yet again. It's getting to be a habit with you.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 3, 2004 06:39 PMGayffrey - you are using your alter ego's words now - come on, I pegged you a little smarter than that - how long can you keep up this charade?
And Ms. Wood - care to prove you knew Moore? What school did you go to?
As far as the film, a "good part of it" was not about the Carslyle group, but it was an important part. Yet, Gayffrey still didn't see it, so he doesn't know what he is talking about. But, thgat is normal for him.
Posted by: Nunya at July 4, 2004 11:04 AMOnly because his words bear truth. You made numerous claims. You haven't anything to back them up with. It must suck waking up every morning knowing you're a fraud.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 4, 2004 03:23 PMYou echo your own feelings about yourself. You pretend to be other people to the point where I think you actually beleive in it. The research has been done on you dude. You been found out. No such people as gordon and jonathan.
You fraud.
There you go, making more claims. Do you think that will allow everyone to forget you can't back up the LAST series of claims you made?
My brother posted his name, address, and phone number the last time you talked crap about him. I'd love to see you drive up there so he can beat your ass. Nothing like having your teeth knocked out by someone who doesn't exist.
You ready to back up your claims yet? Oh yeah, you can't.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 4, 2004 06:01 PMThe address didn't exist.
Now go on back to your toilet blog and forge some more posts from me.
Posted by: Nunya at July 5, 2004 10:43 AM"So Geoff/Gordon, before you go opening your sucks about things, why not go get educated first.
Holy shit! I died laughing when I read this!
NeoCUNT, you can't even spell or use proper grammar and you're telling us to "get educated"?
Ha Ha!
Posted by: Gordon el Magnifico at July 5, 2004 11:27 AMThe address didn't exist.
HA! Talk about your outright lies. I love watching you self-destruct!
Care to post any evidence yet?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 5, 2004 11:31 AMAnd can you stay on topic, for once? Still haven't seen the movie? Still feeling salty and stupid that you made unfounded comments about something you have no idea about? Of course you do, that is why you change the subject - you get called the fuck out and like a pussy you slime away from it.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 5, 2004 01:25 PMLook how quick the terd tries to change the subject!
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at July 5, 2004 01:39 PMNo shit. Once again, NeoCunt has been exposed as a lying sack of shit.
Typical.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 5, 2004 02:45 PMThe subject of my comments AND the subject of the original post was about the filme WHICH myself and Maria have seen. Then you, dickhead, decided to comment on it with no frame of reference.
Did you see it yet? If not, than shut the fuck up about something you have no idea about. Personally, I think you are pissed because your chimps whole world is crumbling around him and when Kerry wins in November, what will you resort to then - you can't get any lower than you already are.
you dickead
Posted by: Nunya at July 5, 2004 07:31 PMMaybe not, but I'll never be the factless lying shitheel you are.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 5, 2004 08:10 PMYou are right, you will never be that - because you are already the factless lying shitheel that YOU are.
Stay on topic
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 5, 2004 11:31 PMAhhhh, it's amazing that you'd post something like that following a string of requests for you to back up your claims with fact, then YOU not being able to.
You're a liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 6, 2004 08:18 AMhave you seen the movie yet? if not, than you have no grounds to make comments. any comments you have made or intend to make on the film are baseless and stupid - just like your life.
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 6, 2004 09:33 AMWe've already proven any comments YOU make are baseless and stupid. You can't back up a single thing you say.
Hot Air.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 6, 2004 09:47 AMHave you seen the movie yet, dickhead?
Didn't think so.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 6, 2004 02:41 PMHave you found the "evidence" to back up your claims?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 6, 2004 03:11 PMLay off Geoff. Nunya spent an hours wages just to get in that film.
Let him gloat. At $5.50 an hour, he's earned it!
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at July 6, 2004 04:54 PMNah, I spent my wages at your house letting your wife lick my asshole.
So, see the movie yet Geoff, since that is what the topic of this thread is.
Didn't think so.
you dickhead
Posted by: Nunya at July 6, 2004 10:20 PMHey NeoCunt, find the proof to support the off-topic claims you made in this thread?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:02 AMYou were the one to take this off topic, and I am the one keeping it on topic - which makes me ask AGAIN - see the film yet?
didn't think so
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 7, 2004 08:37 AMFind the facts to back up your off topic claims yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 02:07 PMStay on topic, dickhead.
See the film yet?
That is what I thought.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 7, 2004 03:37 PMFind the facts to back up your off topic claims yet?
That's what I thought.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 03:47 PMI know what it is - you hate the fact that not only is the film doing so well, but it is sqaying a lot of GOP faithfuls. It is actually making people question the Bush Administration from day 1 they were in office!
You cannot STAND the fact that this documentary is doing so well!
But wait, you didn't see it, did you?
you dickhead!
Posted by: Nunya at July 7, 2004 04:05 PMKnow what esle - goeff, you certainly do like to talk ALOT about rest stops and young boys. You mention it an awful lot on your toilet blog. Too much in fact, it concerns me.
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunay at July 7, 2004 04:08 PMSince you've decided to go off topic again, how about posting the facts to back up your off topic claims?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 04:41 PMExplain how I went off topic? The post maria made was about the movie - I have been talking about the movie. Have you seen it yet?
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 7, 2004 06:28 PMKnow what esle - goeff, you certainly do like to talk ALOT about rest stops and young boys. You mention it an awful lot on your toilet blog. Too much in fact, it concerns me.
you dickhead.
That looks pretty off topic to me. You going to post those facts now, or continue to dodge? You can just admit you lied. I'll accept that.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:12 PMSucks to be proven wrong, huh liar?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:39 PMYou should know, you were proven wrong in this thread.
See that movie yet?
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 7, 2004 07:42 PMWhat was I proven wrong about, liar?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:49 PMThat your comments are baseless and meaningless because you didn't see the movie yet.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 7, 2004 07:50 PMWhat comments did I make that were baseless and meaningless, liar?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:52 PMAll one needs to do is scroll back in this thread or go to your toilet blog and read your commentary on the film, which you have not seen yet.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 7, 2004 07:54 PMAhhh, so what you're saying is you were just caught in another lie.
Naughty naughty, this is getting to be a habit with you.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 7, 2004 07:56 PMHa Ha!
Nunya just keeps repeating himself. Over and over!
Kinda like his day job... huh NeoCUNT?
Would you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
Posted by: Gordon the Magnifcient at July 8, 2004 07:01 PMYou are right, thgat is what I ask your wife, after she is done getting a load of my cum in her throat. I just keep repeating over and over to her wishes "Oh please give it to me, my husband just don't satisfy my needs, he spends all of his time online having cybersex with Geoff"
So, have you seen the movie yet?
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 8, 2004 08:27 PMNotice how he has no problem going off topic EXCEPT when he's asked to back up the claims he makes?
Typical.
All talk, no fact. I wonder who he thinks he fools?
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 8, 2004 09:10 PMWould you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
Would you like some fries with that?
You ever wonder what Nunya actually has for a job? That's assuming he works.
He's a liberal. He lives off your tax dollars.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 8, 2004 10:02 PMthere geoff goes talking to himself again
see that movie yet?
didn't think so
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 9, 2004 07:57 AMOops, NeoCunt tries to return to the topic since he got caught lying again.
Got your "evidence"?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 9, 2004 08:43 AMI have been on the same topic of this post all along - the movie - which have you seen yet? I fnot, than shut your suck.
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 9, 2004 11:13 AMThat's funny, you said that a dozen comments ago and I proved you wrong. Again. Liar.
You posted the facts to back up your off topic claims yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 9, 2004 11:47 AMSo Nunya, all kidding aside - what is your job?
What DO you do for a living? Just curiuos..
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at July 9, 2004 02:20 PMAll kidding aside? Not that you will believe me, but I own my own business. My market targets small and some medium sized businesses and residential customers doing anywhere from simple pc repairs up to designing networks for businesses and securing other established networks. I also do some consulting work for large businesses. I have a few people working for me, a couple of which are full time and the others work on an hour-by-job basis.
Needles to say, I do hobnob with other business owners who mostly happen to be republicans, and that is where I get my distaste for them because most business owners are anywhere from shady to outright crooks. They know how to "get around" certain things such as using tax loopholes and they are very thankful to the Republican Party for making that possible. I do not, however, take part in that kind of bullshit. My upbringing makes me consientious of these things and in good conscience; I cannot be shady like those people.
Now, to get back on topic, in all seriosuness - have you seen the film yet?
No. I'll see it this weekend probably.
I notice you're willing to go off topic any time you aren't asked to provide facts to back up your idiotic claims.
How convenient.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 9, 2004 03:10 PMNo and I won't. I'd rather buy a fur coat than see my money go to fat fucking lying douche bag.
Posted by: Gordon the Magnificent at July 9, 2004 10:00 PMI would never buy a ticket to it. I'd buy one to Spiderman or some crap then just go to F/911
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 9, 2004 10:05 PMWhat did he lie about? You didn't see the film, so how can you discuss it?
Posted by: Nunya at July 10, 2004 12:34 AMI posted a list of things he lied, misrepresented, or insinuated wrongly about that I HAVE seen.
It's in this thread. Gordon didn't say he lied in F/911, although I'd bet a fair amount he does, he said he's a lying douchebag.
You're either extremely stupid, or your a "special" person to think it goes un noticed that you can't answer any questions or back up anything with fact. If it's the former, please don't breed. If it's the latter, I apologize.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 10, 2004 07:55 AMOpen your eyes to the lies your being fat by that fat bloated bag of S-H-I-T!
http://fahrenheit_fact.blogspot.com/
Since you're so "open-minded" NeoCUNT, are you willing to look at the other side?
I will look at the link, but I don't give much credit to anything posted on blogspot (i.e. anyone can start a free blog and post whatever they want). Show me a credible source that did real fact find that proves Moore's facts wrong and I will look at it differently.
As for the movie - you haven't seen it. Mrs. Lipscome, who lost a son in Iraq, I guess that was a big lie too. There is more to the film than just picking on Bush (gee, it sure seems funny that the Repugs get to pick on Clinton for 8 years, and the only thing they can xome up with is lying about getting his dick sucked in office, yet it isn't ok to pick on Bush for taking our troops and country to war oover bad or outright false information).
Again, if you haven't seen the movie yet, than you need to shut the fuck up about it, ALL of your alter ego's Geoff.
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 10, 2004 02:14 PMGet your evidence together yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 10, 2004 02:23 PM"(i.e. anyone can start a free blog and post whatever they want). Show me a credible source that did real fact find that proves Moore's facts wrong and I will look at it differently."
Ha Ha! you fucking idiot. Anyone can make a documentary too. As you've already admitted, Moore doesn't base anything on facts.
Posted by: Gordon at July 10, 2004 02:30 PMYou didn't see the movie yet, so you do not know what was presented in it to be true or false. And that blog had no links or did not cite the "sources." Moore's film does. Most of the time, the source was straight from the mouths fo those he is documenting. Until you see the film, than shut the fuck up about it.
you dickhead
Posted by: Nunya at July 11, 2004 10:31 AMSaw the film last night. You obviously haven't, or you'd have realized that much of what fatty stated as "fact" was either misrepresented, edited out of context, or blatantly false. He included just enough truth to make the extremely stupid buy into his propaganda.
So, you dug up those facts to back up your claims yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 01:38 PMSo was it edited out of conext to see that arrogant violent little shit of a soldier take pride in singing "the roof is on fire?" Come on Geoff, call a spade a spade dude, or can't you differentiate between the two. Or how about the callous bitch who had something to say to Mrs. Lipscome about her son being killed - somehow, and this just may be a hunch, I could see you doing the same - again, a hunch tells me, you are about as compassionate as a fucking brick.
But best of all, I am sure it pissed you off to no end to hear and see the disgust of the folks at the movie theater. I am sure this film hasn;t changed minds of either side who they are going to vote for, but for those indecided out there, perhaps it will. What you are most pissed off about now is the Left wing is employing the same tactics as the right wing as far as getting the word out to sway voters. The difference is, this time, the left wing isn't creating bullshit like the right did when it came to Clinton (yet in 96, despite the negative campiagn from the GOP, Clinston still kicked your asses).
I still don't beleive you saw the film, though. Even if you did, you went in there with blinders on with your mind made up already. Typical you.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 11, 2004 01:59 PMPosted the facts to back up your claims yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 02:02 PMhttp://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/
go to that page - i don't need to back up those claims, moore does it for himself - and all the link there in are not moores facts but directly from news sources and in some cases, the whitehouse itself.
you dickhead
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 02:16 PMI'm not talking about the claims Moore made. I'm talking about the claims YOU made that you said YOU had facts to back them up, then refused to post them because you, in fact, were LYING.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 02:22 PMYou went off topic when you made the claims. The only time you OPPOSE going off topic is when you're caught in a lie.
Typical.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 02:40 PMI never went off topic - YOU however did. Stay on topic.
you dickhead.
Posted by: Nunya at July 11, 2004 02:42 PM"fool me once...shame on....shame on me....fool me twice....you can't get fooled again"
you voted for him, not I, you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 02:44 PMhere is a good link for all to visit
http://www.symbolman.com/wetargets.html
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 02:52 PMI never went off topic - YOU however did. Stay on topic.
you dickhead.
Posted by Nunya at July 11, 2004 02:42 PM
All kidding aside? Not that you will believe me, but I own my own business. My market targets small and some medium sized businesses and residential customers doing anywhere from simple pc repairs up to designing networks for businesses and securing other established networks. I also do some consulting work for large businesses. I have a few people working for me, a couple of which are full time and the others work on an hour-by-job basis.
Needles to say, I do hobnob with other business owners who mostly happen to be republicans, and that is where I get my distaste for them because most business owners are anywhere from shady to outright crooks. They know how to "get around" certain things such as using tax loopholes and they are very thankful to the Republican Party for making that possible. I do not, however, take part in that kind of bullshit. My upbringing makes me consientious of these things and in good conscience; I cannot be shady like those people.
Now, to get back on topic, in all seriosuness - have you seen the film yet?
Posted by Nunya at July 9, 2004 03:05 PM
Now why don't you go forge comment by me over on your own toilet bowl of a blog about your own sick sexual fantasies.
Your spew is not wanted here.
Posted by nunya at June 28, 2004 09:37 PM
Like I said Maria, "gordon" is not ignorant. He knows exactly what the neocons are about and is all for it. Him and his sick jarhead chickenhawk buddies all want war war war, but are too pussified to go fight themselves.
Posted by nunya at June 28, 2004 09:39 PM
Donna - "francis" from his oh so original line of "lighten up francis" was stolen from the movie stripes with Bill Murray. No need to repeat the scene - point made - "Gordon" is not only a smacked ass, he isn't even original.
Secondly, "Gordon", what makes YOU qualified to talk about war? You are fed the same news we are. You also never fought in one. Playing ps2 games does not count either. Having your host mind "geoffrey" make up war scenarios in his head does not count.
Chumley - go away. You are not wanted here. Just because "geoffrey" emails you to come over and "help him out" doesn't mean you have to do it. I am sure he will let you lick his asshole for free.
Now, to crawl out of the muck of their level and talk about adult things - I plan on seeing this movie either tonight or tomorrow. I have requested that the marketers of the film make some apparel for the film, because I plan to wear it on election day. And, after Kerry is elected, I plan to wear it regularly because we all know the GOP will be looking to create some dirt on him just like they did on Clinton.
Posted by Nunya at June 29, 2004 09:14 AM
Only after you provide me some facts that I have never served as you and "gordon" claim.
Posted by Nunya at June 29, 2004 09:49 AM
Perhaps YOUR reality, cumley. But the rest of the non GOP world sees Bush and co. for what they really are - chickenhawks waging war for the benefit of their own and their friends bank accounts. Allowing kids to die so they can have a gateway to more oil, invading other countries to spew more neocon capitalism (which means as the old addage says - the rich get richer), and to promote a completly corrupted version of democracy that only makes it possible for profits to sore for them at the expense of everyone else, is not a very good "reality" to live in.
And Geoffrey, go look at older comments on your toilet bowl blog, and there are plenty of references to you and your alter egos saying I never served. Everyone already knows it so don't try to weasle out of this like you do everything else.
Gordon - I do not see maria arguing against me. Of course, everyone has a right to come here and argue their point, but I am sure she doesn't want the mindless alter egos of geoffrey coming here talkimg nothing but utter repugliKKKan garbage,.
Posted by Nunya at June 29, 2004 07:29 PM
I am saying that our version of democracy (which has greatly changed from bad to wrose in the last 4 years) is not good for anyone but the rich.
I am not going into a big long post, but I am certain that we WILL fail over in Iraq in trying to instill a system that goes against what most of those people beleive.
Posted by Nunya at June 30, 2004 06:15 PM
Yes, so produce the proof for YOUR claims now, Gayffrey.
Posted by Nunya at July 1, 2004 09:23 AM
Geoff/Gordon - tell me what you are so afraid of?
Posted by Nunya at July 2, 2004 07:18 PM
You echo your own feelings about yourself. You pretend to be other people to the point where I think you actually beleive in it. The research has been done on you dude. You been found out. No such people as gordon and jonathan.
You fraud.
Posted by Nunya at July 4, 2004 03:32 PM
OOOOOPS! Looks like you got caught in ANOTHER lie, NeoCunt!
Is that all you can come up with? You right wingers are desperate. All you can come up with is lying about a blow job in office to impeach a preisdent, and now, you come up with cut and pasted information from this thread which proves nothing, continuing to avoid the topic of how Moore showed film of Bush being himself - a monkey moron chickenhawk.
fool me once....shame on...shame on you...you fooled me, you wont be fooled again...
you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 03:07 PMI'm sorry, I'd forgotten how stupid you are. Everything has to be spelled out for you.
You said: "I never went off topic. You however did. Stay on topic".
I then posted a list of comments in which you DID go off topic. Thus proving again that you are, in fact, a liar.
Posted your facts yet?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 03:10 PMI will go off topic with ya, dickhead, from now on.
Here ya go this is your president:
"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than—I say more Muslims—a lot of Muslims have died—I don't know the exact count—at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill." Geogre W. Bush—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 03:11 PM"[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called themselves." George W. Bush —Washington, Oct. 8, 2003
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 03:16 PMFrom now on? You've BEEN off topic.
Since you're off topic "from now on", how about posting the evidence to back up your previous claims?
Didn't think so.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 11, 2004 03:20 PM"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." George W. Bush —Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002
you voted for him, you dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 03:23 PMcare to explain this one
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/10/park.police.chief/index.html
didn't think so
dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 03:28 PM"The Prime Minister brought up the Abu Garef ---- si -- situation. " George W. Bush
-- By which he means "Abu Ghraib", Washington, D.C., Jun. 22, 2004
Link to audio - http://www.dubyaspeak.com/mp3/abu2.mp3
dickhead
Posted by: nunya at July 11, 2004 06:53 PM"It is said, that, before September 11, George W. Bush thought the Taliban were a Bavarian brass band. Now, thanks to his comprehensive knowledge, the most powerful man in the world has got into hot water again.
It was Condoleezza Rice, national security advisor, who helped her boss out of the embarassing situation. During a conversation between the two presidents, George W. Bush, 55, and Brazilian president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, 71, Bush bewildered his colleague with the question "Do you have blacks, too?"
Rice, 47, noticing how astonished the Brazilian was, saved the day by telling Bush "Mr. President, Brazil probably has more blacks than the USA. Some say it's the country with the most blacks outside Africa." Later, Cardoso commented that regarding Latin America, Bush was still in his "learning phase"."
not only are you a dickhead, but so is your president!
you dickheads.
Any luck getting your evidence together to back up your claims? Until you do, everything you say is just more bullshit lies.
Liar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 12, 2004 06:08 AMDUBYA: I'll answer some questions.
REPORTER: I have one question for President Bush, and a second question for President Havel. President Bush, you have said some lofty words here. The Czech Republic...
DUBYA: I said some what?
REPORTER: Lofty words.
DUBYA: No one has ever accused me of being a poet before, but thank you.
-- Nobody's accusing you of being a poet here, either, Dubya, Prague, Czech Republic, Nov. 20, 2002
dickhead
Posted by: nunya at July 13, 2004 08:15 AMLiar
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 13, 2004 10:24 AMWe don't want to discourage the innovators and those who take risks because they're afraid of getting sued by a lawsuit.
-- There's nothing quite like getting sued by a lawsuit, Washington, D.C., Jun. 24, 2004
dickhead
Posted by: Nunya at July 13, 2004 09:20 PMLiar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 13, 2004 10:00 PMI don't see what Nunya has lied about. He's taking direct quotes. You can't deny that George Bush is a fucking idiot to the zillionth power. A fucking psychotic, bumbling, liability.
Posted by: Maria at July 14, 2004 12:09 AMGayfreey isn't referring to the quotes, he is referring to me making claims that he has forged posts, changed posts, made claims that I never served, made claims that I am a child molester, made claims that I have never coached kids soccer and baseball, etc. He wants proof that he made these claims. I don;t feel like going back through his pit of a blog collecting all of that shit because it isn;t worth my time. Anyone who knows him, knows that he does this shit all of the time and knows that anything he says is meaningless and outright lies.
So I am not worried about him because he is just
a dickhead.
Posted by: nunya at July 14, 2004 05:06 PMYikers.
What's the point. The 'twins' are simply contrary to be contrary.
Disengage? All you do is feed his ego and his dimentia.
Posted by: Richard at July 14, 2004 06:02 PM"dementia"
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 14, 2004 06:38 PMLiar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 15, 2004 07:58 AMdickhead
Posted by: nunya at July 15, 2004 03:15 PMLiar.
Posted by: Geoffrey at July 15, 2004 09:13 PM