By Beauty Damned

I agree.. it's total bullshit.

I recall being plunked in "nursery school" at maybe four years old... (in fairness my mum was 42 when I was born and I suspect she was "all set").. But I longed to be home as nice as "Mrs. Brightman" was to me. It's just too young.

Thank GOD for the summer and my aunt's cottage at Sandy Neck and the ability to be entirely carefree. What I'd give for just an afternoon of that bliss right about now... hmmmmmmmmmm. I swear I can smell the salt air and the wash of the cool water of Cape Cod Bay on my toes. Pure heaven.

(BTW... I've been retrieving my childhood ever since...!! Actually NOT a bad way to live ;-)

I've got to agree with both of you on this. Hi Maria & Choses- got the website off of Lee's site.
I am currently home schooling my children because
of the number of days they missed in public
schools. We have found that 3 to 4 hours of school
work- you can be done and the kids aren't exhausted.
They are shoving so much stuff into our kids- you're right- I think it is to blame for the hyperactivity, etc. And then the schools ask you to put them on
drugs to help them "focus".- Major red flag for all parents out there. We need to let kids be kids, learn but not be rushed about it. My son is tdoing school work my daughter (2 years older) is learning now. They are pushing way to hard and I can understand why kids are angry and frustrated.

JENNI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome dollface! How are things?? (Sorry to be so off-thread Maria). Jenni's a peach of a gal from the middle of the country in case you haven't met!

That's a full time job Jen. Seeing any signs of spring yet?

Hey commonfolk! (Jenni) I'm pretty sure we remember eachother from back in the days of BH. hahaa. Thanks for stopping by.

You go girl. For home schooling your kids. It takes a tough mom to do it. My mother got so sick of my problems in school that she homeschooled me for a couple of years in LA before we moved to Oregon. I learned more in those two years than ever before or after. I read nonstop. I did college algebra. For the first time I understood and enjoyed math. I knew more about the CIA and the US government than any other kid I knew. I read history with a fervence. Those were the most learning enriched days of my life. Schools did not cater to kids like me (who hated it and needed a different learning angle). Needed a REASON or an INCENTIVE to be interested rather than just disciplined repeatedly for failing to be interested. Nobody cared either. So many kids fall through the cracks every day, year after year, because their individual learning needs are not being met and school administrators are fascists. I give you a high five for doing to right thing and teaching them at home.

p.s. I went to pre-k also and naptime was my favorite time of day. That was when I would go over to the window and cry for my big brother to come and save me. Hahahaa.

M?

Speaking of "pre K"... what the fuck was the exchange at Sandy's tonight???

Christ he's sad. Don't waste your breath he thrives on the negativity. In those cases negative attention is better than none. I suspect he needs a friend in Sandy... I hope she's equal to it for the "long haul".

I'm all done with his antics and weighing my options regarding those that give him any "air time". He has a malignancy you know.

I'll tell you exactly what it was: Me saying "if it quacks and it has feathers on its butt, then it's probably a duck" or more accurately "if it bashes everyone else while putting itself on a pedestal, it probably hates itself." I just think he obviously lives in a world of arrogance spawned by complete self loathing and his belittlement of others is a testament to that. I just thought I'd point it out to him, not as if many haven't already done that before me.

I have to say that I find it flattering that he thinks so highly of me that he talks with others about whether or not I will show up in a thread to "back [you] up" Richard, but all the same, I think a girl like me needs to come along and punch him in the fucking head so that he can see what a little pussy he really is. I have made tougher guys than him bleed from the mouth and if it was really a physical confrontation I already would have laid that motherfucker out. He is a bigot, a bully and a downright detestable human being. He may get down in the mud when it comes to name calling, but he's the one who has to live with himself. He can call me whatever he wants. At least I look in the mirror every day and see a person who does the best I can to treat others the way I wish to be treated and who is genuinely loved, rather than to look at what he sees: a bitter, lonely, inadequate man who sets out to shit on others so that he can in some way feel better about himself. Doesn't look like it's working out.

I was in total shock last night when I checked into Sandy's Place Maria.. Neil and I had company for supper so I didn't sign on until late. I saw that shit and went WTF?? I tell ya, I don't know that I've seen anything quite so perverse in a very long time. That my friend Sandy defends (by her silence) and "enables" him is a source of some grave reconsideration for me. I'd made a wonderful friend in Sandy and that she condones in any manner shape or form that sad little man confounds me beyond belief. However such, I assume, is the nature of humankind, (albeit sadly realized).

If I were to post on her thread again I'd say one thing to her: "Why do you suppose he never comments on the content of your blog??" Nothing more. However, posting there is a study in futility as he aims low and shoots to kill. Response, for him, is purely bait to strike lower to that bottom-feeder.

She can buy us "all a beer" she likes... but mine's getting pitched directly in his face. Then I'll get about the business of associating with people worth my bloody while.

My suspicion is that he's holding the rest of the world accountable for the inadequacies of his own upbringing. Last time I checked I wasn't responsible for the fact that his father was a drunk who didn't give him the attention he needed and his mother turned a blind eye. That shit's just fine when you're 12.. but there comes a reckoning I'll wager and he's not far from his "day".

I was convinced then as now that he was responsible for the hurtful and venomous things that must have been posted re your family thread. Again, I know you're all grown up and could bloody his nose (especially given the true nature of his cowardice) but the kind of organism that would stoop as low as to denigrate the things one holds most dear are beneath contempt. And, I fear, they're beyond salvation.

In all honesty Maria.. he's of no consequence to me specifically. I have no concern for what becomes of him and those like him. What I am having a certain sobering amount of trouble with is the fact that he appears to garner an audience (of the disenfranchized) and indeed one "audience" in particular that I thought was truly in my corner. That sort of disappointment never ceases to sting. I value loyalty above most qualities and when it's betrayed I am brought to the same old sad realization... I trust too easily. Oh well. So be it. Oblah dee.. oblah dah huh??

However, I still maintain "REPUBLICANS SUCK!!"

:-)

BTW.. I highly recommend "cul's" site:
www.deeperwants.com "rantboy's anvil". It rocks.

I agree with you Choses and if you're reading this Sandy, I say it to you also, despite all the affection I have for you: I have been a person who ALWAYS stands up for my friends. No matter what. That guy who got a bloody mouth. It wasn't for what he said to me, but how he treated my friend. I can endure bullshit, but I don't like to see my friends being mistreated. I don't like it so much that any person who knows me will tell you "don't fuck with Maria or those she cares about because she will rip you a new one and after that, she'll do it again."

It would be nice if there were a simple "hey this is my site fuckwad, so if you want to be deliberately horrid & degrading & discriminatory & derrogatory to those who I consider friends, then find another place. Be nice, comment on that which I write about and at least try to harbor good will. Do not plant seeds of negativity for your own shits and giggles. At least have a purpose." If a person does not have the backbone to assert themselves and stand up for their friends, then that really is a huge bummer.

I checked out that site by the way. Very cool. Will definitely read more. Thank you. And buck up, Sweetness.

Sentiments kindly received and acknowledged Maria.

Neil's always telling me.. "oh there you go thinking everyone's just dandy". Even when he says it I know he's right but I refuse to go into anything with one eye watching my back.. at any rate my friend Karen gave the "G" word a go for 'round for a while tonight I notice. Still Sandy remains deadly silent. God I hate "lessons".. grrrrrrrr.

Between your sentiments just expressed and Karen's 20 year old friendship I suspect I'll be just fine in the mornin'. Thanks again.. and all the best. R.

Well..all of this has just been too heartwrenching for me. I don't know exactly why or how all of this came to be. I hate to be dramatic, but my blogs are so gone and I'm turning this evil computer off and walking away so to speak.
I have no ill feelings towards anyone, and maybe that's my problem. Yeah, I like to like everyone but that just seems impossible.
Maria, you are so fucking great...I have loved chatting with you and you take care of yourself honey, you are just wonderful.
Richard..no words can express to you my feelings. I'll always think fondly and lovingly of you.
Good Bye you guys...I'm gonna leave all this internet blogging to the stronger at heart.

Chose,
Seems to me your actions, by and large, are hypocritical. You run from blog to blog "crying wolf" to anyone that will listen. You're comments on my blog HAVE NOT gone unnoticed. You reguarly log on just to stir the pot and take jabs at Geoff. He, in turn, has repaid the kindness. Today you even threatened him with physical violence. Fucking shitbag. You've taken a flame war between you two to a level thats unacceptable to most of us. We may argue and bicker, but rarely do any of us resort to petty threats. In your own words, you reap what you sow.

After your intiial comment on this thread I have come to understand your constant need for attention. It would seem your Mommy didn't pay enough attention to you. Or your fatherfor that matter. No father figure... hmmm... maybe that'd explain why you've taken more balls across the chin than Johnny Bench.

Good grief. Stop already. It's over.

Maria's on to all of you at Dogsnot Gordon. Now just leave it alone and let it go. Geoffrey's made his bed and done sufficient damage I'd say so just keep your nose clean. He's a big boy one assumes and doesn't need you cleaning up after his mess. You speak of unacceptable levels?? Read your own foolishness. Now that's unacceptable. And as far as threatening anyone is concerned you'd be the "fellows" that have that market cornered.

Assuming you're really not Geoffrey (as has been stated by some to me) in another persona that is, take your ill will and poor manners and shove off. Either way you're cut from the same bolt of cloth. You and yours have made yourself transparent at Maria's site and if you'd care to e-mail privately I'll take the matter up with you one-on-one. Otherwise stop airing your "dirty linen" here. It's over.

**Maria - several people have purported that Geoffrey, Gordon and Jonathan are one and the same. Writing style varies little. By this previous post I'm inclined to think it may be so.

Bullshit Chose. I've never paid you any attention until now. You came on to my blog and threatened my friend. I don't take kind to that sort of behavior. We call eachother names, make fun of one another's political affiliations - but a normal blogger DOES NOT threaten others with physical violence on a blog. Dance around the facts all you want, but you'd be best suited to mind your own business.

No question. It's Geoffrey. None. You've been outed old boy. You've persued me here since Sandy was forced to wipe out her site.

I should think you'd have had your fill but I suspect that's impossible.

As I said "Gordon".. email me if you care to discuss further. I'm busy and we're on someone else's turf.

"You've been outed old boy."

Way to go Matlock.

Now, out of the blue, you're concerned about someone else's turf?

Dumbass, you're the one that brings it up on other people's "turf" all over the blogosphere. This thread is one amongst SEVERAL that you have logged on, ignored the topic at hand, and posted slander about Geoff. Even tonight you started a flame war at Geoffrey's and now you're waffling because of the repercussions? So much for your "reap what you sow" zinger.

You're spineless Chose.

Gordon I can't imagine why you decided to come here to address Choses, since I have not one fucking thing to do with what you guys have going on. What I do know is that most of my past experiences with Gordon have not been anything comparable to magnificent and my experiences with Geoffrey have been equally disappointing. Bottom line? Don't come to my site to beat up on Richard because he has been a joy to have on my site and niether Gordon nor any other dogsnot regs have ever been much less than a complete pain in my ass.

Go somewhere else Gordon, if you want to start a fucking pissing match. This site is not a place to perform all your bullshit antics. Take it someplace else. If you ever had any interest in my site or anything I had to fucking say, things might be different, but you have never been anything but a mysoginist jerk, just like Geoffrey. Richard is welcome here anytime. Because he comes to be involved in positive and enriching banter on the topics that I write about and to share things with me. Not to flex his snide attitude.

When your douche bag friend logs on MY blog and threatens people, then hides behind YOU, you're gonna hear about it. Comprende?

I have asked you repeatedly to be a MAN Geoffrey and take this to private e-mail. Stop purusing me. You seem increasingly disturbed with each post. Bullying and threats are your modus not mine.. but then you know that. Relax and behave yourself Geoffrey. This is not the place. Capisci? Leave it alone or take it outside.

Don't fucking "comprende" me Gordon. This is MINE, bitch. Richard has never, in any way, shape or form, "hidden" behind me. He has only come here to relate with me, Sandy, Lee and others on topics that interest all of us and to enjoy the "atmosphere," reconciling differences and sharing our commonalities. That atmosphere has rarely been the venue for duking it out about petty, peurile bullshit. He has never entered my site with the intention of waging pointless arguments or slinging bile. You, on the other hand have never come here for any of the previously mentioned purposes, so who do I trust? Gee, it doesn't take a genius. (And if it did, you'd be shit out of luck). So either come and be pleasant, or fuck right off. I don't give a shit what sort of entitlement issues you have. COMPRENDE?

"I have asked you repeatedly to be a MAN Geoffrey and take this to private e-mail."
Lessons on how to be a man from Chose? Now that's funny. It would seem all those games of peek-a-oo with Neil's asshole has finally addled that feeble brain of yours.

Why the desire to share private email now anyhow? Seems all along you've been content to drag mud across everyone else's blog, including this fishwrapper.

"This is not the place. Capisci?" If that's so then why'd YOU shit all over Geoff here when you were unprovoked? Maybe you need to remind your self of the same.

"Leave it alone or take it outside." And what exactly is this? Another idle threat?

BTW - it's Gordon, not Geoffrey you moron.

Maria,
Were the vulgarites neccessary? Two can play that game you dumb cunt.

Yes, they were absolutely necessary. Bye bye Gordon.

Gone and forgotten... ah the "silence of the miscreants". Pure heaven. Mille grazie Maria.

Now onto matters of substance :-)

No need to thank me Choses. I have had all I could ever handle from these dickheads. I also saw the shrine that has been built and dedicated to you over at Bitch Snot. Really lovely. All of those people make me physically ill. Trying to battle with them is like battling with a multiple headed sea monster. You chop one ugly head off and another grows in its place. It's not worth the aggravation. It's really not. And it looks like Sandy has certainly chosen the side on which she wishes to reside, as she seems to have found time to continue reading and commenting over there, even after her heartfelt Au Revoir to the internet which is posted above. Such is life. It pains me to see that even within a thread that is dedicated to bashing you, the only thing she can say is "my little hole in the wall blog is gone..." As if that were all. Mm - mm - mm. Miss honey. You've got a lot to learn about loyalty. But I should have known that someone who thinks that George W. Bush is a trustworthy man can't be all that trustworthy herself...I feel terrible saying that, but the truth can't be denied.

Freaking unreal re Sandy Maria. Just e-mailed you to that effect. Still picking my bottom jaw up off the keyboard having just seen her little "disclaimer". Why is it that you "get" the loyalty piece so automatically and all she could say was "poor me" in effect??? When I first saw that she took no exception to my "shrine" (should be flattered I suppose I unnerve him so) I was incredulous.

Next time, "warn a fella when you've moved on to the next friend of the month" Sandy huh?? It's like getting a sucker-punched in the gut.

I thought the same thing about the Bush thingy. It's got to be something genetic about these people. They see a "leader" in him and we see the beast. Don't these women see they're being USED by these misogynistic assholes?? Have they no pride? I'm left scratching my head... unreal.

Maria?? Of all those I have met on this odd machine (with the notable exception of Karen - who I warned not to get involved but couldn't help herself much to my glee - who's friendship goes back 20 years) you've been stalwart in your support and I gotta say darlin': "Thanks. It just rocks."

Choses,
I hate to spoil your conspiracy theory. But I will. I had sex with both Gordon and Geoffrey on different occasions, of course. They are most definitely different men. They both fuck like wild animals. Best sex I've ever had. Jonathan is Geoff's brother - he is real too.

For future reference, anyone could verify for you that they are different by checking ISP's.

You can also verify that I am not them - because my ISP will be different. I'm in the Midwest.

She's chosen where her loyalty lies. With some dude on the internet who "makes her laugh" with his boneheadednes versus someone who she had something comparable to a real friendship with. Geoffrey is transparent. But then again, so is George W., and Sandy can't see through either of them, so I say: boo! Go get your eyes checked!

Above all, I am so disappointed that she is unable to see how her condoning Geoffrey's vicious homophobic nastiness is wrong. Sure people can sort things out amongst themselves, but sometimes it's your job as the person running the blog, and more importantly as a friend to the respective parties, to take control and saying "I will not tolerate this level of animosity in my comments. Enough is enough. And that's all for the gay bashing." And it would also be nice if she would realize that Geoffrey instigates animosity with his abrasive demeanor that would not otherwise be there. There's a bottom line here: If she considered herself a loyal friend to you, Richard, she would have stepped in on your behalf. And that doesn't constitute you "hiding behind your friend." It's just what friends do for eachother. And she should be smart enough to see through Geoffrey. But she's not. She loves his vapid meanderings. It's sad because all those people that cheer him on don't seem to see how he's not very clever, not very funny and not very sharp witted. And in the end, I've just lost respect for Sandy. That's all.

Thank you Michelle for that enlightening moment of zen. Knock knock. Who's there? WHO GIVES A SHIT who you fucked??? Kick rocks bitch.

Michele=Geoffrey=Gordon=Jonathan.. whadyabet?

Of course a female would say "fuck like wild animals".... SURE she would. How desperate is he?? Unbelievable.

Well Maria,
As the thread progresses we're all getting to see the white trash that lurks just under you're thin veneer.

I'm sorry, was that meant to be an insult? Coming from the most inbred derelict ever?

And p.s. since you are using a dynamic IP, I find it easier and easier to believe that you are just a super basketcase with a multiple personality disorder who posts under various names.

He's using a proxy, silly bint, just like I am. It's bad enough ricardo has plastered my address around the internet, I'm sure Gordon would rather not have the same done to him. I understand how that's out of your technological understanding, though.

Let me see if I understand your logic here. I'm an asshole. Ricardo and I sling shit at RV. Ricardo takes it to Sandy's place. Sandy delete's the blog. But Sandy is a bitch for what again? Not defending Ricardo after he dragged shit over there? Have you wondered why this may be the only blog Ricardo hasn't been banned from?

I love watching the lesser classes self destruct. It's just sad that not only did you WANT to get involved in something that didn't concern you, but you get pissed at Sandy for not getting involved.

Boone's Farm must be on sale today, Ricardo is on a role. Now that I think about it, I'll bet you are the same person. Hmmmmm. Ricardo=Maria. I knew it!

I was disappointed in Sandy when she didn't stand up for Richard against your gay bashing, but I didn't get real pissed about it until GORDON brought it to my blog alright schmuck?

And I know you love to watch the so called "lower classes self destruct." That's why you are hateful neoconservative dickhead. It's your pride and joy in life to see others suffer. But don't get all hot about it just yet because ain't nothin self destructing here. Move along Geoffrey, move along. And take your creepy crawlies with you.

Actually, it was Ricardo that brought it here, again. Scroll up and read where it starts.

Actually, to tell the truth Geoffrey/Gordon whomever, this is how it began:

I was at "Right Voices" and you mocked my legitimate post in that reactionary ill-bred fashion of yours and in the process eventually outed yourself for the woman-hating homophobe you are. That's how it began and you can't quite let it go. The rest is history.

Look Joffrey, you have your "prize" Sandy (such as she is) and in a sense I'm grateful to you for exposing the depth behind the individual. I suspect, truth be told, she's more in your league than mine.

And btw, I'm duly complimented that you've constructed an entire thread to me at "Dog Shit" central. It says a good deal more about you than I.

You need to move on Joffo... it's tired and you're audience is dwindling.

He wasn't addressing Gordon when it started. He was addressing me. Gordon came here and addressed Richard and started the go-round all over again. Richard can come here anytime and talk to me that doesn't mean that he's inviting Gordon. Gordon was clearly chasing him at that point. Scroll up Geoffrey. Read it over little one.

That's funny. Earlier you said Ricardo is welcome here because he stays on topic. That was surely not on topic. Then you said Gordon could stay if he added to the conversation. His next post did.

Of course, this was after you went to Sandy's site and started up over there.

Could you pick me up a pair of those rose colored glasses? There are plenty of times I'd like to avoid the facts.

God.. LISTEN TO YOURSELF. STFU and move on already you moron! Nobody gives a fuck but you. Get on with life will ya??

I brought it up? Reread the thread and you'll see how Chose "brought it to your blog" just like he has at several others.

ref:
Posted by: Chosesinconnues on March 18, 2004 12:21 AM
Posted by: Chosesinconnues on March 18, 2004 07:13 PM

I know we've generated more traffic for you than you've seen in a year, but a good host should at least be familiar with their blog's content.

What did Chose's comments have to with the topic at hand anyhow? Nothing. His sole intent was to slander Geoff. I called him out on it and now you're barking like some junkyard dog defending a soup bone. Get a grip.

I did not specify that being the one and only reason why I value Richard's readership. He has been around regularly. He always adds something. Therefore he has built up a rapport with me. Could the two brain cells rolling around in your head possibly bump into eachother and comprehend that for a moment? Gordon has no such rapport with me. It's bad blood. What more of an explanation do you need? Or do you just like to beat dead horses for shits and giggles?

Maria. It's pointless he is the same person Geoffrey/Gordon/Michelle. Collectively or singly they're all hugely disturbed. His modus is "engage then overpower". Give "it" the last word and he'll disappear once he's not getting any feedback.

It's more akin to a steamroller than a human.

Basta.. already.

Richard brought it to me. Gordon followed him here. Get it straight.

Actually, you did when you came over to Sandy's. You planted your own nose squarely in the shit. Stop crying that now it's the only thing you smell. If you didn't want to play, you shouldn't have started the game. Even worse, you shit on Sandy for not wanting to play.

How pathetic.

Oh yes, and Richard was also a more loyal friend to Sandy than you ever have been or ever will be, so I think that is the most important reason why Sandy's snub was hurtful. Because you are no kind of friend.

Sandy visited my blog every single fucking day for months Geoffrey and as soon as she started her blog I visited hers every single day. I had more of a rapport going with her than you and so did Richard, so you were the fucking asshole who came in and turned everything so ugly. And she was the idiot who let you do it. Go figure.

First, Sandy didn't snub ricardo. Ricardo went crying to sandy, asking her to defend him. She stayed out of it.

Second, what's that got to do with you, anyway? Did she do anything to you before you went and shit on her blog then insulted her?

By your idiotic thinking, a person should never stand up for themselves or anyone else against a verbal assault because then THEY are the ones starting something. You are the most twisted, demented fuck Geoff, you know that? You really are. I'm not crying about it because in reality we can sit here and comment back and forth until I get tired, which is about now, and when I get up and go to my bed, I will have sweet dreams, because you mean about as much to me as a dust mite.

I have tried so hard to stay neutral and I have tried so hard to be nice..not once have I used the words Maria or Richard publically to bring on insults. I have yet to stoop to the level of calling anyone an idiot or disloyal. But yet..this is all my doing...I see how it works. That is friendship?
I have never made a secret of my support for gay rights, so the thing about saying I didn't defend Richard is bullshit. I have many entries at RV and other places to prove that I have put my money where my mouth is on that topic.
But did I step in when Richard * Geoffrey had their heated arguments? No I did not. I wasn't involved in it..2 grown men do not need me to get in the middle of a pissing match. And yeah I do like Geoffrey, he * I are cool.
So...I'm moving on to do my thing. If you guys want to analyze why I did what I did than go for it. You want to tell the world that you lost respect for me than go for it. I haven't nor will I drag any of you through the mud. Funny and you question my morals and standards...

I can tell by the way you're flying off the handle. It bothers you because you know I'm right. Ricardo can't stick up for himself. He doesn't have the mental fortitude. He'd rather go cry to others to stick up for him.

Again, I wonder why he was banned or told to shut up on most of the sites he started this shit on? I'm glad he finally found someone who's trailer park was willing to put up with him.

Every alcoholic needs a home.

What kind of friends are so willing to shit all over another in a public forum? Both Maria and Chose knew what they posted would be read by all parties involved, including Sandy. Christ sakes, she was so upset she shut down her blog, to many people's disappointment. I'd say she's better off without a pair of backstabbin' snakes like the likes of you two to call "friends". A pair of outcasts like yourself deserve one another. As it stands, this blog is already some sort of a Leper Colony.

To Sandy:

Neutral?
Your silence alone negates that theory. Get it right. Where it concerns friendship there's no neutrality. (You know like what you condemn in all those European countries who don't jump in miltaristically for that moron Bush during this moronoic War??)

And be accurate. "Idiot"?? Never once.

"Disloyal".. Yup, to the hilt.

Just keep to your gaggle of friends at your dirty ashtray and that swamp of a site "Dog Shit" and you'll be just dandy. Have you noticed Sandy that not one of them (whoever they actually are singly or collectively) EVER posts a comment on your topics regarding YOUR life and times? No interest in you as a person with a history. Only when you preen his ego does "the sad one" respond. Otherwise you're all alone. In other words Sandy.. THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU!

However, a few words of advice.. NEVER disagree with them publicly or you'll be 'toast' ol' girl. Keep is light and pandering or you'll join the ranks of Maria and me here in the "Leper Colony" (admittedly a paradise compared to the stagnant cow pond in which you prefer to lay with the lost one).

Whatever the case. You've made your choice now live with it and bring your posse with you. Don't you have some homespun story to weave at your 'ashtray'? Perfect. You said that's what you wanted to do, now do it.

Booo Hooooo, you stopped paying attention to me. Waaaaaaah! I started a fight, brought it to your place, then you wouldn't stick up for me. Booooo Hooooooo.

Admit it, Ricardo, you love the drama. You must, you CREATE it. You want to talk about google searches? Do one of your own name.

baby boy?

you're obsessed.... you pursue me and pursue me transferring your own pathology to me vainly hoping to dump it on someone else. It's perfectly clinical.

Now run along ... nobody cares (except obviously you). Besides Sandy'd love a response to her "Pop" story I'm sure. Are ya equal to it?

Pursue you? HAHA. Follow the trail. Better yet, I'll spell it out for you.

I post on RV. You get mad, cry, then get banned.
Then you follow me to G-Fry, and he tells you to grow up (funny being told to grow up by a 17 yo.)
Then you follow me to Connie's, who ignores you.
Then you follow me to my page, where i ridicule you.
Then you follow me to cul's, who ignore's you.
Then you start shit at Sandy's, who tell's you to fuck off.

Now THAT'S pursuit. And you say no one cares? Heh. Just your whining alcoholic self. As I said before, you LOVE the drama. Just google your name. At least I'm honest about it. Of course, that's what it's been all along though. Me being me and you being lying and manipulative.

Posting my address around. Telling people I'm stalking you. Posting threats on my page. Telling people you had to call the cops. Lie lie lie drama drama drama. How old are you again?

No wonder people are sick of it. Not me. I get a kick out of it.

Geoffrey, don't you even have the sense to go away when someone bans your IP address rather than morphing into another annoying yammering hole in the wall and continuing with your taunting? Apparently not. And you have the nerve to ask anyone how old they are? I banned you. Now go away. You are obssessed with Richard and it's really getting boring and sad. Bottom line is that you followed him here and your mindless babble is boring me to shit. You're not welcome. Go away. You went down the list of all the places that Richard has supposedly "followed" you to, but there's one blog missing on that list. MINE. And how did you get here? Hmm. By following Richard, genius.

You need to go take another computer class. You haven't banned anything. If you need instructions, email me. Either that or your banning facilities work as well as your side bar.

And no, I got here when you trolled my blog a year ago. Until that day, I never knew you existed. I guess you don't like it as much when it happens to you. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

... Geoffrey Geoffrey... let it go..... it's over.

Time to move on.

Oh please Geoffrey you haven't been here in the entire year since I stumbled across your boring ass blog (and stumbled right back out of it because it couldn't hold my attention after that. Even your liberal bashing is so unimaginative and dull that I can't even muster the concern to spar with you...) So don't act like you're here every day and you and Richard just happened to bump into eachother and start arguing. You are ten lbs. of shit stuffed into a five lb. bag. You came here because you knew he and I were discussing what was happening elsewhere and you wanted to put in your two cents, because your ego is so big that it orders you around and you think it's free will. You came here because you can't say no to your inner demand to prove yourself. Your tactics are so old and transparent that they have ceased to work to your advantage. Now you are just making yourself look silly.

And I HAVE banned your IP address, several of them in fact and Gordon's as well, but you both continue to change IPs and you know it.

I haven't changed IPs at all. I'm using the same two I have been for awhile. You're either lying or again, your banning feature works as well as your side bar.

I don't claim to have "stumbled here". I came here specifically to fuck with Ricardo. Just like he, and you, bounced around to specifically fuck with me. You don't like it? WAAAAAAH. Ban me, then.

You lost interest in my blog? You left HUNDREDS of comments there. If that's losing interest, I'd hate to see something really grab your attention.

It must be rough not being able to read. I said I lost interest AFTER that time. Have I continued to comment on your blog? Have you seen me there in the past year? Didn't think so. That one thread had my attention and when that was done, nothing else much interested me. Why must I spell everything out for you? Are you really this slow?

Yes, probably so.

I get it now. In that case, after I spam hundreds of comments I'll probably lose interest and get bored with your blog also. Then I'll move on.

It's fun now, though.

Isn't that cute? A new IP address.

212.41.137.99

Yeah, you finally stopped lying about the ban and actually did it. There's the new one.

Good god man...not every word out of my mouth is directed at YOU RICHARD. The idiot remark was towards Maria, she called me that. Is that accurate enough for you?
You just couldn't help yourself though could you? You just can't talk without being mean and nasty. Funny, you tell me to pander to Geoffrey..and let's say I would have dropped geoffrey like a hot potato, wouldn't that have me pandering to YOU? It wasn't pandering to you when you'd email me and ask me to "back up you" at Right Voices or whatever new blog you had found yourself. See, you left that part out with Maria huh? That I followed you around this fucking internet like a "pandering idiot" to keep you happy. I got into more arguments than I care to remember on your behalf, because of you or just cleaning up your mess. So is Maria gonna do that now? She gonna answer all your emails to rush off and help you fight your battles..what happens when Maria tires of doing that...you gonna unleash this shit on her too?
You have used that loyal card one too many times with me "ol boy". You tested my patience, you took advantage of my feelings for you, you USED me and when this gal said no to you..just one fucking time I said NO....well you turned on me like a stone. Sorry for that...I just cant' be a friend to you if being a friend means fighting every damn battle you get yourself into and honey..that's alot of battles..

I wouldn't have you "pandering" to anyone. I'd have you be a decent woman of principle Sandy. Generally an easy call for most of the women I know. (Especially those among whom I count my friends)

"fight battles"?? Surely you jest. You retreat when confronted. Geoffrey's "easy" for you. He doesn't require anything of you. I required one thing: Friendship. You've proven yourself incapable.

Now in good conscience why not take your pal Geoffrey and put him under your wing Sandy and bring him to that ashtray site of yours since he seems to be so bloody interested in your topics, eh?

That should satisfy us all rather nicely.

You and Geoffrey need to let this go. You're on another's turf and decidedly unwelcome.

HA! Ricardo chases me all over the internet and when he finally gets my attention he cries about it. Good God man.

You bring a fight to Sandy's then CRY when she doesn't back you up. Go suck down another bottle of Boone's Farm, you make more sense drunk.

You've spent the last few weeks begging for drama. Now you have it. Have some fun.

HUH?????????????????? what an idiot.

Sandy. I gave up putting my nose into debates on the internet and battling with all the idiot republicans of the world a while back. I got tired and it wasn't worth being aggravated. That's why I came to your blog and you came to mine. Because that animosity wasn't there. We resolved to have our differences and it was pleasant. But seeing you buy into Geoffrey's ugly trip is just sad. There is no positivity there. Only hatred and cruelty. There is no insight beyond his selfish outlook on the world. That is what Richard has been battling. Though I still think he wastes his precious time. You make it sound like it was a job to "defend" Richard, your friend, against hateful attacks which were retaliation for his attempt to reason with the most unreasonable people on earth. To send a wakeup call. But then he is the one who is considered the instigator? Because he speaks up instead of being trampled? He has never gone out to maliciously taunt or harm anyone, only to try and make narrow minded people understand some things they are obviously way too dense to comprehend. And when, in response to his attempts to shine light on his perspective, he is attacked and insulted, he is the one who is blamed and accused of being the attacker? It is so twisted and that's why I am even involved, because I can't believe how convoluted this has become.

Can you see Sandy? Can you see the difference between the interaction you had with Richard and the one you have with Geoffrey? Can you see how shallow that relationship with Geoffrey is? How you are another little pawn to him? You know what I really think? I think you are afraid. Really truly afraid. And I also think that guys like Geoffrey who are condescending are attractive to weak women because they feel special that such a cruel person is nice to them even when they are nasty to every one else. And those weak women don't want to rock that boat. God forbid you actually did tell Geoffrey to screw off. (Which you should have because he has no goal other than to see people tear eachother apart so he can sit back and enjoy it). He might have called you a whore, a drunk, stupid, ugly, fat...or any number of things. And that would hurt more...losing your special place with this asshole would hurt more than losing your friendship with Richard. Oh I'm sorry, your "job" as Richard's defender.

um, Maria, you're showing your ass again. You obviously didn't read Right Voices yourself before buying Ricardo's line of bullshit. He started the childish name calling. I rather enjoy it, so I joined in. I never expected he was going to start tracking me down in real life.

Had you taken the time to read Right Voices, you also would have seen Sandy and I disagree on several issues. You guys make it sound like Sandy and I had this huge secret relationship going on. Hardly. We talked sometimes. That's about it. Ricardo didn't like that. Before anything even HAPPENED at Sandy's blog, Ricardo was telling her to ban me. She didn't, so he threw a hissy. Wah fucking Wah.

Geoffrey you really have no perspective whatsoever on how much of a cretin you have the capacity to be. I honestly don't care what went on at Right Voices because every time I have even peeked at the goings on over there I have been appalled at the lack of intelligence in almost every single person commenting. Considering that Choses is a gay man among a bunch of right wing gay hating wackos, I give him the ultimate benefit of the doubt. I saw many of his attempts at sharing his views there, and I also saw the reactions and responses. Hateful. Cruel. Nasty. Condescending. Ignorant. Why do you think I do not participate? It's not worth it to me. I AM too sensitive and I'm not afraid to admit it. Richard deserves a lot of credit for continuing to stand up and state his point of view after all the times he's been shit on in the venues he frequents.

"You guys make it sound like Sandy and I had this huge secret relationship going on."

Actually, what I'm saying is the opposite. That you guys had no real relationship whatsoever which is why it makes it even more outrageous that she would snub Choses. I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's like grade school. Your best friend gets beat up by the school bully, you don't defend your friend and afterwards you ditch your best frend to go hang with the bully because "he's kind of funny" and "kind of makes you laugh, even though he's an asshole" and "you're sick and tired of standing up for your friend." Let them defend themselves. The weakling. Well that's exactly why some people have no backbone. Because they just "go with the flow" and don't stand up for anything or believe in anything. They're too busy taking all sides. Integrity doesn't work that way.

Of course you don't want to see it. You'd have to admit you're wrong.

A more accurate comparison would be:

Your friend picks a fight with a a guy you know. He gets his ass kicked. Your friend then follows the guy around the neighborhood taunting him while the guy ignores him. Your friend then follows the guy to your house, picks a fight with him there, then blames you when he gets his ass kicked again.

Some people realize that if you don't want to get your ass verbally beaten, then you don't start fights for no reason.

Waaaaaah that Ricardo doesn't realize that.
Waaaaaah that you prefer to argue from a position of ignorance.

Only problem with that theory is that your idea of what constitutes another person "picking a fight" with you is the same as them having an opposing view from yours or defending themselves against your repeated condemnation.

Again, Maria, you're arguing from a position of ignorance. That isn't what happened in this case. Do a google search of Ricardo's name. Easily 90% of the entries that come up are him logging onto a website and attacking the author for having an opposing view. Then go to Right Voices and look back to where Ricardo and I started our shit fest. He couldn't defend his position and started with the whining and name calling.

I don't mind playing the bad guy. I enjoy a flame fest. That doesn't mean I'm going to let you rewrite history to ease your concience about how you treated Sandy, though.

Face it. You bought Ricardo's bullshit without doing your research, and shit on Sandy for minding her own business.

There's one thing you'll never be able to do, and that's call me a liar and back it up. It doesn't happen.

There's one thing you will never be able to do, and that's let go of this obsession.

I think your friend quite possibly could have posted something interesting at her blog Geoffrey. Why not mosey over there and add something of value. Seems a fairly constructive idea. Foolish me.. I forgot myself.. that would require genuine interest in her as an individual. To tall a task for the likes of you.

Nobody here appears to care particularly about your psychosis. Oh, my bad. Forgot. You'd be shit out of luck without some negative embroillment. Life would just lose its lutre.

And the beat goes on.............

One more time with feeling joffo:

"Actually, to tell the truth Geoffrey/Gordon whomever, this is how it began:

I was at "Right Voices" and you mocked my legitimate post in that reactionary ill-bred fashion of yours and in the process eventually outed yourself for the woman-hating homophobe you are. That's how it began and you can't quite let it go. The rest is history."

Get it? Got it? Good.

Perhaps a more mannerly approach to someone initially would engender better human relations hmmm? A word to the wise. HUH? I retract the last.. it's humanly impossible for you. You thrive on discord.

Maria
I'm not afraid, tired maybe but not afraid. Weak? I'm not the one who started slinging mud here, weak people do that. A strong person lifts their head and steps over the manure. Don't ask me if I can see...you will never be willing to see my side and that's the truth.
I think your heart may be in the right place but things just aren't so simple all the time. You have some "bad blood" with Geoffrey obviously so it's easier for you to jump on this wagon with Richard because he doesn't get along w/geoff either.
The only thing that really disturbs me is the unwillingness for some to take any responsibility in this. It seemed to have solely been dumped on my shoulders..I was gonna carry that load at first, but I ain't now. After the dialogue you 2 had about me in public, I dropped that load of shit fast. I never engaged in a public stoning of you Maria...I can understand Richards resentment but you...I can't. I never came to your site to tell you the "goings on" about any of this. I haven't emailed asking you to make an alliance. I just liked your site, liked commenting on it and I liked hearing about your life. I never asked anything of you and I never expected anything more than what we had. I don't like to put friends in uncomfortable situations. I would have kept you out of this if I could have. To me that's a friend, I would have shielded you from any pain, not bring you into the fold. I still say you're a good gal and it stings that you don't respect me but I can't change it now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you won't be able to call me a liar and back it up.

You know it and I know it. It's funny how you talk about obsession now, Ricardo, after you followed me from blog to blog as you got banned and told to take a hike. You fail to address that. It's funny how you talk about obsession now, Ricardo, after you post my address around the internet, then lie to people telling them you feel so threatened you had to call the cops. You fail to address that. It's funny how you talk about ME mocking your posts and being the antagonist, when it's you who got banned and told to knock it off on every blog but this one. You fail to address that.

Get it? Got it? Good. You're home from the liquor store early, by the way. No sale on Boones Farm today?

Not threatened Geoffrey just aware. There's a huge difference. Your primary danger is to yourself.

You're the type of extremist who's actions need to be monitored.

And so they are. And, get real old boy, from the time I disagreed with you (wait actually I didn't) you've taken dead aim and acted out this obsession continually ever since. In truth, I simply commented generally to the topic of the thread at which you chose to make one of your schoolboy-bully-chiding remarks. Who, in the name of everything sacred, treated you so badly as a child? You're a psychoanalsist's wet dream. And as you recall you continued to try to incite me Joffo by needling and belittling and all you got was a "fine thanks. Geoffrey" for your trouble. I respond in kind and LisaS being the open-minded person she is (??) decided per usual (given her banning history of dissenting opinion) to bar my ass my like she did Maria's. No big surprise there. I'm not banned from any site with the singular notable exception of Right (wrong??) Voices. That my fine-feathered-friend is a badge of honour for me. To be included in that mélange of scared little phobics is tantamount to living a life of unmitigated ignorance. The remainder of you there posting are certainly weclome to that circle jerk.

You elect to make posts under my name at your site and call them mine. Attempt to convince others all you like but you and I know who's done it. It's you or one of your other personae. And now I find it was your modus with the owner of this blog too. You need to develop a new pattern. This one's too predictable. Not too much of a stretch to see that you thrive on this shit. Your credibility (assuming you ever had any) is dangerously close to nil.

You have your Sandy and you've opening admitted to having wanted to end our friendship as your incentive and goal. Mission accomplished and I've previously thanked you for it. Isn't it working out for you?? Not enough is it?? The thrill gone?

Pity.

Oh wait..I was gonna respond but I have to wait for Geoffrey to email me what to say.
"What's that G? You need me? I'm on my way man..hold on"

but you just did Sandy............ let it go. He's pulled you in to this. Just do your composing and wait for commentary. That, after all, is what you claimed you were interested in wasn't it?

Oh..I'll let it go..in fact I'm done now..I just thought I deserved a few comments here and there..but yes you're right..I'm back to my dirty little ashtray...Enjoy!

I don't go there. Good luck and be well.

Speaking of getting real, let's do that.

You got backed into a corner on RV and lashed out.
You couldn't behave when asked so you got banned.
You followed me to G-Fry's and posted a completely off topic Ad Hom, and were then told to knock it off.
You followed me to Connie's and posted another Ad Hom. You were ignored.
You went to cul's and cried there. You were ignored.
You went to Sandy's and started in on me there. You were ignored.
You ran to Maria's, and cried here, she finally took the bait. In fact, I'll bet it was you who posted here under my name originally just to get it started. That makes sense now.

Everything I've posted is easily verified. Just go to any of those sites and look. You're a drama queen, ricardo, who's been trying to get my attention for weeks. You've lied to everyone, you've acted creepy to the point of pumping Sandy for information about me then looking up my address and posting it everywhere. You lie to your friends about calling the cops. You're a big phony. You're crying for attention. Anyone who actually cares enough to go see what you're talking about learns that you're full of shit.

I enjoy it. I'm laughing my ass off. What's even funnier is now watching you play off the stupid posts you make on my site as though you didn't write them. You're a nut ball, and I'm enjoying the show.

Oh the drama! Let's get a grip on reality here people. Maria has feebly attempted to paint a picture of Cochise as some folk hero braving the right wing blogs with his homoerotic and liberal views. Ha! Get a grip. Chose trolls on right wing blogs solely because he's a drama queen who loves to stir the pot. End of story.

And all this high talk about friendships lost and trust broken? I hardly know Sandy but I'll be damned if I'd ever backstab a "friend" on public domains like you two have her. Geoff and I duke it out on IM at least once a month but you don't see us slandering one another on public domains. Christ, you two assholes aren't even qualified to discuss friendship.

I've never backstabbed Sandy. Everything I've ever said I've been perfectly willing to say to her face. Hi Sandy. Otherwise, Richard and I would have had our discussion via email.

yeah, it wasn't backstabbing. She aired her ignorance right here for us all to laugh at.

Hi Maria

Fine thanks Geoffey/Gordon yourself?

HAHA, Sandy, you're me and Gordon and jonathan now too! Welcome to the club!

well I'm certainly not being 'ignored' by YOU am I Geoffrey/Gordon ;)

Get a job and become a productive citizen. This is preposterous.

Hell no, this is much more fun!

I love watching you having to resort to childish banter, knowing you can't address a single point I brought up without slipping further into your lies.

I'm sorry, this is so ridiculous that I can't even muster any venom anymore. I am laughing my ass off. What a bunch of idiots. Especially Geoffrey/Gordon. He is the king of all idiots. (It's easier just to address them as one person since there is no real distinguishing factor except that Gordon is clearly inbred). To think that we are 95+ comments deep and all we have done is ridden a fucking merry-go-round is all too damn comical. I'm sorry. When I can compose myself and the tears of laughter stop rolling down my cheeks I'll came back and think of something cutting to say. Until then I am going to try and come up with an answer to my friend Brett's question: "don't these people have jobs? What the hell do they do that they have time to be commenting on this blog all damn day." I for one, have had a slow day at work. What about you Gordon/Geoffrey/dipshit? Don't you have something important to do Mr. Superiority?

You just now started to laugh? If you'd started following Ricardo's banter weeks ago, you could have been laughing at his lies all along with the rest of us.

You had a "slow" day at work today? Nothing to type? No coffee to get the boss? C'mon, we all know how demanding your job is. I guess you could follow your sisters career and get into porn.

And no, I have absolutely nothing better to do today. My life is hell.

Good job restarting my engine with the sister comment Geoffrey. If I ever meet you I'm going to break your fucking face. And I don't get coffee fuckhead. I'm sure I make a hundred times more than your mother does selling her ass out on the street every day. OH!

That's because my mom is beat. She doesn't pull top dollar. If your sister didn't have such a horse face she'd probably pull more. No tits, either. The ass is nice, but it's been plugged so many times it's not worth much. I guess that's what happens when you go into porn.

And I know, I know, being a secretary pays top dollar.

Yah, Daddy must be real proud. One daughter's a college dropout, the other a porn star. Bravo!

Yah, Daddy must be real proud. One daughter's a college dropout, the other a porn star. Bravo!

http://www.fetishchixs.com/gallery/Dream-Pretty?page=2

All this talk of multiple personalities has me wondering if you might just be your sister and she's just an alter ego pen name that you use on the blogs.

If I wasn't adopted I'd be upset about the mother comment, but since I am, you can keep insulting Geoff's mom at will.

MAria, Chose and all:

What you are experiencing here is nothing new. Joff/Gordon/whoever else he decides he wants to be, have done this over and over again on countless blogs. It is his way.

I myself no longer have hate for him after I found certain things out from someone who knows Geoff. I feel quite sorry for him. To dispel a common myth, there is no Gordon and there is no Jonathan. These are simply persona's Geoff made up. In fact, the pics you see of Geoff are not real either. The whole thing is a disguise. A scam at best. What I can tell you about this clown is someone who has a lot of issues. But at best, he is a one boy show and by continuing arguing with him only fuels his fire. This is how this person gets his rocks off. It is all a fassad.

I even highly doubt this sorry person is a repuglican. Joff, whatever your real name is, I really do pity you. You do need help, though.

One thing you guys need to understand - one day, this twit will go away. Like a certain female blogger from Florida who pissed off too many people, so will this turd who claims to be someone he is not. EVentually, it will get boring to him or people will just ignore him with a sort of side glance and so "oh, it's just him" and give it no second thought.

The sadness is, this is a person with nothing better to do with their time when there is a whol wide world of constructive things to do. Instead, this person looks to provoke others either at their owns sites or stir up trouble on his sorry web site.

Again, don't feed the dog, it just encourages him.

And to think that I've stuck up for you in the past Nunya (Maltese), and here you go lumping me in with that bunch. I call them as I see them, and I've stayed out of this one, so leave me out of it.

Ha! We all knew Neocunt was still reading our blog! It was only a matter of time before he reared his ugly head.

HA! YAY, Neocunt is here! WooooooHooooo, it's a moonbat party.

And when you get over the fact that I am not Nunya (yes, Joff, you really DO have a lot of enemies out here), then perhaps one can have a civil conversation.

I know the gig, man. It's up. Do I need to tell WHY you shut down geoffrey-allen.com.

No, I won't, because that really isn't my business. I am going to leave it at that no matter what you want to say to provoke it.

I do not know what is more sad - the fact that you come here as all three of your persona's in succession or even worse, if they WERE all different people, do they call one another up on the phone to go post on the blog? Nah, nobody can be THAT sad.

Oh well, enough of this, I have things I need to get done.

HAHA! NeoCunt is back! WooooHoooo! It's a moonbat party!

I'm a persona, how interesting.

Not much to say now I guess.

Wahhhhhhhhhhh.

Here's some required reading for the Leper Colony;

http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/000196.html

http://members.cox.net/truth-seeker/2004_03_21_prevpost.html#107999573792607270

Thanks for the 'heads up' Maltese. The internet is riddled with the truth about his personality disorder:

for example: http://www.madlife.net/archives/000056.html

HA! I'm the one obsessed, but not only does Ricardo scour the internet looking for my home address and phone number, but he's had to go pages deep into a google search to find one other person that "thinks" I'm the same person as Gordon. This one doesn't mention Jonathan, though. Or Michelle.

I'm flattered, Ricardo, I really am. Your obsession is a little scary, but I'm flattered. All you had to do was ask, though. It would have saved you hours of searching. You would have gotten a RIGHT answer, too.

I think he has some strange sort of fatale'crush on you Geoff. Some sort of a strange fetish. I'd be concerned.

talking to yourself again Geoffrey??

Night laddie. You've been found out :-)

Awwwwwww, isn't that cute. Ricardo has a crush.....

Again, I'm flattered, but don't put forth too much effort. Even if I decided to play for the other team, it wouldn't be with middle-aged fat island foreheaded drama queens.

Hurry Ricardo, the liquor store is going to be closing soon! Half price Boone's Farm after midnight, isn't it?

Isn't it funny how this thread is titled "sadists" and the original post has nothing whatsoever to do with what it's evolved into? Am I the only person who sees the wonderful irony in that?

Sweet dreams all. Oh except for Geoff/Gordie, he'll be dreaming of slugs and snails and puppy dog tails. And my sister fucking him in the ass with a huge black dildo. His ultimate fantasy.

Sweet Baby Jesus! I don't think I could bring myself to do horseface! That's even leaving out that she's in porn. Those girls just seem nasty to me.

Mmmhmm...so you say...

I wonder if you to do a sister act at gentlemen's clubs? I'd pay to see that comedy! Christ, it'd pack more entertainment than a donkey show in Tijuanna!

Only someone who's been to a donkey show in Tijuana would know, jackass! And I have no doubt that you would pay to see my sister and I do an act. Unfortunately, a do-nothing such as yourself wouldn't be able to scrape together the couple million dollars that it would cost you to see such a divine spectacle.

Oh yeah, and 2 is spelled T-W-O, Gomer.

Step it up sweetcheeks.

You can tell they've run out of compelling arguments when they start attacking your typos. Run Gordon! The typo police!

A couple of million to see a couple of horse faced skanks get it on? Your sister doesn't charge. Her girl/girl stuff is online for free.

Class act! Go Fetishchixs!

Joff makes this claim that "people dig to find his address" when it is easily and publically available on internet white pages. This argument has gone on for two years and has been posted on many message boards in the past about Joff's supposed address. He makes no whim about his name being Geoffrey Allen living in MA. I even have my doubts that is really him.

On the argument that people also dig to find comments you left on other boards, again, it is not hard to find, You have made a name for yourself under several different names but the consistant pattern is you are a shining gleening asshole in everyone of them. You have pissed people off far and wide. What gets me is he talks about Chose and other folks "trolling right wing boards" and stirring up trouble, when he himself is not only guilty of doing it online (and proudly admits to it (see http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/000156.html) but also does this shit (or claims to) in real life (see http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/000199.html)
How sad for you, Joff, to have that empty of a life. SO he does all of that, accuses other folks for doing it, and than has the nerve to claim he is not a hypocrite.
The fact is, Joff/Gordon/whoever is out there that you have caused far more trouble on "left wing boards" and readily admit to it. I don't care how disturbed you are in the head, you have no room or right to come down on someone who does the same.

Awwwww, NeoCunt is pissed because after HE went to all the trouble to track me down, he didn't dare show either.

That's why no one fears liberal moonbats. All talk. What NeoCunt doesn't realize is, how fucking freaky do you have to be to try to track someone down? Knock Knock.....Who's there? STALKER

Keep obssessing over my sister and I. The more you talk about it the more convinced I am that you are in love. How much time do ya'll spend looking for photos of my sister on the internet? ...ick. Nasty old men pulling your wankers and festering over the fact that you will never see a fresh young ass anywhere except on the internet for as long as you live. I feel bad for you, honestly I do, but could you be a little less obvious about your utter fascination?

WHy I continue to address you when you claim I am someone who I am not, I must be as dumb as you look.

And what folks do by looking up your name on the Internet is not called stalking. It is called you being stupid enough to leave your name and address and phone number public. You build your virtual soapboxes, go around from site to site running your suck pissing people off, and then you get angry when someone wants to find out more about you. When they do find it (again, all public information) you start whining about it.

Now I don't know about others who have tried to meet you in real life, nor do I really care. I wouldn't waste my time on you. Like I said, over the past two years I have read a lot about you and used to get angry and think that you were as others have stated "an ultra right wing extremist" then just recently, I realized you are no more than very lonely person who has nothing better to do with your time than to cause junior high school arguments on other sites.
Somewhere in your disturbed mind you have to realize that the things you say provokes people and it should be no surprise that some folks would get that angry to the extent to want to beat your pie hole shut - its nothing new either.

Maria - there was a time way back when, when for some reason, he sought out a dude named Justin Mccormick and decided to banter on about Justin's site. Justin had some photos of his wife on there from their wedding day. His wife was a very attractive young lady and I remember how Joff made it a point to go on and on about Justin and his wife.

So yes, I do beleive he does have some fascination for your sister. But that is ok Joff, she is pretty hot, I think. She knows how to present her sexiness. Hats of to her.

NeoCunt: HAHAHAHAHAHA

Maria: Actually, your sister emailed me the links to the pics. How else would I know she does porn? I spent a lot less time that bitchard did to find a reference to Gordon on a website that's been closed for months.

Fear not! I won't tell anyone that a simple google search for Dreampretty will reveal many of your sister's porn pics. I understand your jealousy, but you can't blame horseface for being in porn. Being a secretary isn't THAT bad.

NeoCunt, you haven't left your mom's basement in months, who are you fooling.

What my sister does is not porn. She does extremely classy nudes and also happens to be a talented photographer who received a huge grant from her school Stanford to pursue her interests. More validation than you've ever received in your life, obviously. I admire her because she's beautiful and SMART and so confident that a pissant such as yourself couldn't deflate her self belief with all the malicious & reprehensible comments in your cheap little arsenal. She is still on top of the world and you are still a dirtbag. Isn't that funny?

Hey, if it makes you feel better to call girl/girl sex scenes "classy nudes" more power too you. I don't care what you call it, but it gives the guys browsing fetishchixs.com (sounds like a "classy nude" website to me) another horse face to whack off to.

Geoffrey you're really sliding downhill here. I'm sorry that you are so lonely and inadequate that you have to whack off to pictures on the internet. "Guys browsing fetishchixs.com"? Namely, YOU? Does it bother you that in that instance my sister has power over you because she is the babe who is in control of her destiny and you are the poor schlob who is at the mercy of your own pathetic existence whacking off to her sexy photos?

No, why should it bother me? I care about whacking off to horse faced porn stars as much as I do about the strippers taking my money at Mark's Showplace.

Does it bother you that she's in porn and you're a secretary?

No but it bothers me that she goes to Stanford on the honor roll and I don't have the capacity to endure the schooling that she does. It makes me mad at myself that I'm not as driven as she is for higher education. But I also admire her so much. And funny thing. She admires me too. Because you may belittle me as a secretary, but I am in the top of my profession and am loved and appreciated by those around me. Not to mention, I can afford to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world and have a good time while I'm doing it. So that counts for a lot. I'm happy.

I'm sure you do great. Lot's of secretaries wouldn't perform the neccessary "duties" to be at the top of their class. I guess you and your sister aren't that different after all.

Well, except she'll have a degree in porn when she's done, and you'll just have a tired jaw.

Yeah Geoffrey. That was original. Really more of an insult to my bosses than to me since they are not dirtbags like you. If you had a job you'd undoubtedly be a major sexual harasser. Hey. Maybe that's why you don't have a job. Couldn't keep one... Anyway, I'll tell them you sent your regards and we'll all have a laugh at your expense.

Thanks. Just remember not to talk with your mouth full!

You're right, though, it is more of an insult to your bosses than to you. I'm sure they have better taste than that, but I suppose if you're stuck at the office it beats using your hand. They can pull up pictures of horse-face on fetishchixs.com and stick you under the desk.

Two...Two....Two mints in one! Just kidding. Im sure you're great at your job. Why else would your christmas bonus be knee pads?

Oh! Hahahaaaaa! Hahahaaa! Oh. Oh my god. Hold on. Hahaaaaaahahahaa. J-j-j-just h-h-hold on. I am laughing too hard! Hahahahaaaa. I get it! I get it! The only thing women are good for is sex! Hahahaaa. Geoffrey. You. Are. So. Funny. I am such a lowly creature that in order to get anywhere in life I would have to get on my knees! That's brilliant! Why have no other mysoginist pig's asses thought of using that as an insult? Woohooooo!

Phew. This is getting pretty boring. Geoffrey/Gordon is running out of insults.

Who said that? I know plent of women that have made it extremely far in life without getting on their knees. They just aren't porn stars or "slow" secretaries. If you consider being a secretary is "getting far in life".

I suppose, given the option of joining your sister in the porn industry, you've done pretty well.

Yawn.

Keep that mouth open, it's lunch hour!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

No, OPEN. They may be calling for coffee soon. Obviously your job is so important that falling asleep doesn't matter.

On a scale from one to ten I give it a 1.5

You really need to work on your act Geoffrey.

yeah, that one was weak. Don't give up on me though, I'm just warming up.

Let me go to fetishchixs.com and get my motor running.

Or, I could just head on over to your parents site. I can see their influence in your sisters career.

*looks at watch...*

*Taps foot...*

So predictable...

Excellent retort. It's obvious you're still a little upset by your parents exploitation of your sexuality. It must have been pretty bad growing up in the compound like that. Obviously bad enough for one daughter to go to the other side of the country and suck her way to the top of the secretarial ladder, and the other to enter the porn industry.

Yes, yes, my parents were hippies. Yes they were very liberal when we were growing up. Yes my dad is a well known attorney and millionaire and you are a pathetic sniveling masturbator...

Geoffy. I'm going to ignore you until you come up with something that doesn't bore me to tears. Okay?

HAHAHA! How proud he must be to have a daughter in porn and another getting coffee for people like him. I'll bet he's regretting that whole commune upbringing now. I believe you, though. Most millionaires have children who are coffee getters and porns stars. Why, I can think of.....er.....no other examples, but I'm sure there are some.

You have effectively desensitized me to your remarks. They are so repetative and unoriginal I can't take it. Now the torture is not in being insulted, but more in watching you plummet into this downward spiral where you are just shooting off rubberbands and they are missing everytime. I'm sorry Geoffrey. This is so depressing to watch.

hey, well at least it didn't take me long to find something that didn't bore you to tears.

You don't like being shown for what you are, huh?

Well that one definitely wins the award for "Vaguest Insult" ever. You must be delving into your more creative side...

And meanwhile, you've found me out. You've shown me for what I am Geoff. I surrender. You're right. I am a cock-sucking, coffee fetching lowlife of a secretary (who has never administered oral sex to a coworker or fetched any coffee) and my sister is a pornstar (who has just never starred in any porn). Our parents are loser cult-members who we ran away from. Has anyone ever told you that you're psychic? Very impressive. I am psychic too. And you are a sniveling self deprecating masturbator who is oblivious to how stupid you look spending hour after hour sending out virtual insults to virtual strangers. Lunchtime!

You're wrong. I'm well aware of how ridiculous it looks.

Oh, and sure, fetishchixs.com isn't a porn site at all. You're only correct statement is that I erroneously called horseface a porn "star". She's only a walk-on role.

I know, you'd rather believe that you're the daughter of a "well known millionaire lawyer" who just happens to be a coffee fetcher with a sister in porn. Again, I can think of er....no other examples of millionairs with porn star or secretary daughters, but I suppose there's a first for everything.

Don't be so hard on yourself, though. You weren't given a fair start in life, buddha commune and all.

Hey Joff - for someone who has so much to say about "online stalkers" stalking you out - you seem to have done a whole lot of information gathering yourself to know so much about this girl here and her family. Oh wait, sorry "Gordon" got all of that info, .

You see how sorry this poor kid is now, Maria?

Sorry maria - I just get so worked up about secretarial work - I couldn't hack it myself. So now I am installing urinal cakes at the red sox ball park.

You got his number Maltese.

So Geoff for your last comment I'd say it registers about a 0.2 on the Richter. Barely a ripple. Hey you should make a movie. You could call it "Boring Banter 101: instructions on administering banal blog insults" or even better "The Sticky Keyboard Chronicles."

I thought you weren't responding if it is boring? I'm using your responses to judge my success. Quit throwing me off!

Hey NeoCunt, researching someone's personal information is slightly different than following the links they email to you or post on your site. I don't expect you to see the difference. Quick, shut'er down, you're mom will be home soon.

Wow. Okay. Sorry to just butt-in here, but my name has been mentioned a couple of times, so here I am...

:: Anyone is welcome to come to my blog regardless of their political affiliation. I am willing to go the rounds with anyone. Anyone can be an asshole.

:: I didn't ignore Choses. His comments didn't solicit a response, they were just supportive. Don't drag me into this scenerio as someone who is Choses bashing, because I didn't.

:: From what I have read from Sandy, she is a very thoughtful person and I do not believe her silence meant anything other than her unwillingness to get in a shit-flinging contest between two of her fellow bloggers.

:: When are you (and I mean this collectively) going to realize that the blogging world is simply a creation in and of itself? Who really cares if Geoff has two or three personas? Who cares who is gay or not or who does porn or not or who is doing who or not? In the grand scheme, guys, it really doesn't matter. It doesn't have to effect your life to this hilt.

:: If you have built up relationships with people online, give them the benefit of the doubt. Maria and Choice, I understand your feelings, some of betrayal, some of disgust. But really what did Sandy do to you other than mind her own business? Are you gonna really let your online interaction with her deteriorate because of it? Examine your true character, and see that it doesn't make sense to "banish" anyone publicly. It just makes you look silly.

:: My father used to tell me to "pick and choose your battles wisely". That is what I pride myself on doing. That is why I have only thrown barbs with Geoffrey at his site and mine... and G-Fry's where this all started. Do I care that he personally attacked me? Not really. I used it as an opportunity to sharpen my own stance on the non traditional family. I got a few good blows in. If I didn't want it to continue, I wouldn't have engaged. A fact in point, we now read each others blogs often, and have developed a teasing-type rapport because I don't take him on and he doesn't take me on. It doesn't have to be an all-out war if you don't agree with someone. I could have used my guestposting priviledges at G-fry's and slammed him to the high heavens. But what for? So I can say what has already been said a hundred different ways? No, thanks. I am more original than that.

:: STOP TAKING YOURSELVES SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY! You guys are going to get an ulcer. Remember, this is YOUR creation. Make it what you want.

:: Maria - what a strong and independant woman. I have been a secretary myself, and trust me on this sister, YOU run the place. Don't let ANYONE tell you who you are and what you do doesn't matter in the corporate world. If your sister is grant-funded to Stanford, I can only estimate that her work may be provocative, but probably very artistic and worth seeing. Don't let anyone tell you anything different.

:: Choses - I don't know you and what I do know is from common rantings and your supportive comments of me and my family. What I can surmise is that you may want to look at how you engage Geoffrey and crew - only for the fact that it seems like no one really want to let it die. If you do, just stop engaging. Stay out and proud.

:: Sandy - I am sorry you got stuck in the middle of all of this. Remember, to be a friend, you don't always have to stick up for them. Sometimes, a true friend stays out of situations and is labeled the "betrayer". They will come around when they realize that this whole thing is silly. You aren't afraid, I can see that. Be strong.

::Geoffrey - you are an asshole. Really. But you crack my shit up because I really don't think you believe the hate you spew and only do it for attention's sake. We can talk true politics and you come up with the same conclusions I do. Be careful, your right wings might be getting a little clipped. Stop the name calling and hate bashing. It really does get old - use logic and reason and you might have more luck. And you can get your own fucking coffee.

:: Maltese - don't know you either, except for your supportive remarks on my site. Thank you for your support.

:: Cul - my brother and ally, you simply rock the house.

Just remember, guys, this is a BLOG. Nothing more. Express yourself, fight and bicker and discuss. But when the day is done... it is still only a BLOG... it is not Survivor. Alliances don't mean anything, you aren't gonna be voted off the island, you aren't gonna lose $1 million.

Seriously. Just take it down a bit and keep writing all the wonderful stuff you do.

Loves

Hey, who let her out of her cage?

HAHAHAHA. I STILL got it.

You did. You forgot to lock the lesbo up the last time you unleashed her to go to the kitchen and make you a pie.

Thank you Connie. Your comments are appreciated and well articulated. Good things. And you are right a hundred percent of the way. But trust me. At this point, I'm not taking any of this seriously.

"Blog Insults For Dummies"

Rule #1: Find out as much information about victim as possible by stalking their site and that of their parents and siblings.

Rule #2: Scratch balls.

Rule #3: Scratch ass.

Rule #4: Wait for both of your brain cells to bump into eachother, spontaneously creating a thought. Any old grimey thought is fine, but preferably something which fits into the category of derogatory, chauvenist, homophobic, malicious, slandering or belittling.

Rule #5: Start slinging.

Damnit. I need to re-install that electric lesbo gate.

Excellent, Maria. You followed that to a Tee when you started. Funny, you forgot to mention that YOU threw yourself into this mess on Sandy's site. You start the mud slinging, then whine when it follows you.

Shouldn't you be at the gym working on that secretary spread? If'd you'd get a job like horseface's, having your ass slammed all day would diminish it.

Hey, didn't you know I was trained at the MacGuyver School for Lesbos? I can spakel and change oil and break through electrical fencing...

You're welcome, Maria. I blogrolled you, btw.

Kill me with a tampon string?

Sorry I don't speak dickhead-ese. What was that?

Connie, you have made my day.

Geoffrey - stop with the secretary/sexy-tary crap. It makes you look juvenile.

Although, why should you deviate from your usual? *snicker*

You were speaking fine earlier. What's the matter, maria, sucking cock make you stupid?

If sucking cock made you stupid, you would have the intellegence of Forrest Gump, Geoffrey.

I AM juvenile. You gals just expect too much from me.

Yes Geoffrey, another unfortunate side effect of fellatio. Stupidity.

Dumbass.

That makes absolutely zero sense. You must have me confused with bitchard. Anyway, wasn't Forest Gump a millionaire? Just like maria's dad?

Maria - you crack me up. I actually laughed out loud at the "dumbass". Just hit the right note with me.

Well, guys, I DO have to get back to work. Remember, play nicely in the sandbox, my kitties need to use it later....

GO CONNIE! Geoffrey may not be a smart man, but he knows what sucking cock is.

Remember Geoffrey, we discussed the fact that you were sexually repressed and I've been trying to get you to come out of the closet...

You'd look so good in pink.

Yep. Saw your sister doing it on fetishchixs.com

K - I am really going now.

SMOOCHES.

No you didn't.

Bye. Stay away from the Pride parades. I'm driving today.

Bye Connie! Thanks for dropping in on this funfest. xoxo

On your next break, connie, check out horseface on fetishchixs.com. Or you can see the whole freak family on maria's family page. Those were pre-secretary days, of course.

Your thoughts expressed here Connie are sound by-in-large. Much appreciated. I do, as you note, count loyalty unusually high among my credentials for friendship. Maria's a stand up girl where others were not, surprisingly. It's all in how one chooses to conduct a friendship and my standards were well established before that exchange began and the party involved assured me she was equal to it. I took her at her word. Let me assure you, I can be counted on for same when called upon. It has something to do with honour. And yes. I'm a stickler.

I dunno Connie. I know you and "cul" (both thoughtful and articulate souls) find something amusing and "devil-may-care" about the "G" person whether he be one or four personalities. We part company here. I simply don't share your enthusiasm for random unkindness no matter how insincere he may be. The negative energy expended seems somehow counter-humanist to me.

Indeed last night I ran across someone who has e-mailed me privately to say the the "G" person had hounded him at his site (Openly Gay male with his own blog who is A.I.D.S. full-blown status) saying the cruelest imaginable things and telling me that it was unwise to continue to engage.

I concur, finally, wholeheartedly.

To me there are limits. Yes, even on this machine. A volley (flame-war if you will) is one thing. Hatefulness and boredom-inspired pursuit of victims quite another. To me it bespeaks at lack of the very thing you and I (as proud Gay folks) value beyond all else: Common decency.

Can I get down and dirty? Yup sure can. I learned how to scrap ages ago. Oddly the foe is in the same old guise he's always been ya know? It's trite but my feeling is "he" needs to be confronted wherever he rears his ugly head.

I realize you've not been ignoring me at your site. Your site is great and I stop by alone for that swirly rainbow of yours!! :-) I don't take what he says seriously.. I love your site and I commend your openness and pride. You inspire all good people. (please emphasize adjective)

My suspicion is with the "g" types that they find a much more sympathetic audience with Gay Women than Gay Men. I've lived on this end of that experience. With you guys he feels a certain