If this isn't the biggest bunch of bigots, in complete denial, I don't know what is.
It amazes me that I was banned from commenting on this website, yet others are permitted to say things like:
They only got 78 complaints cuz the sissy core audience that tunes into this kinda pansy ass show ain't gonna mind seeing two of their OWN smoochin' away on stage. Au contrairy fairy, if ya know what I mean (winky). You betcha bottom dolla walla they sittin' on them fancy french couches or settees or whatever they call 'em, and they givin' that fag couple the big thumbs up and toasting with pink champagne.
Guess that's why I don't watch them fruit-loopy Tony Awards
This particular person is so clearly a racist and a bigot (though he will deny it to the death) And somehow that is not considered offensive. Using derrogatory terms like "fag" or talking about young American black men as if they are all losers who are just a burden on society is acceptable, but I was banned for being appalled by their ugly commentary. I am still shaking my head and wondering "what fucking planet are these people from?" It's called Boycott Hollywood, not "Fag Bash Central" yet that is what it is half the time.
Most of all, I am so sad and so disgusted that there are people that still think this way. The worst part is that they think they're open minded:
Ok, this is how I feel about the whole thing...I'm glad my children weren't watching, so I don't have to explain that one!!
What you do in the privacy of your home is your own business, but don't do it in public and expect me to accept it. I have some tolerance towards the gay community, but I don't believe they deserve special treatment. I feel most gays have an political agenda for everything they do. They are thrusting themselves into the lime light and forcing us to "just deal with it", which is totally unfair. It's funny when a conservative does something like that, we are called intolerance if a liberal does it, he is commended for speaking his point of view. Funny how that works.
I say a simple handshake or a pat on the back would have been sufficient.
This is what you call "tolerance?" Holy shit, I don't want to know about the things you're INtolerant about.
And why do I continue to visit this website? Because I like to see what the other side is thinking. It makes me feel like I have some kind of advantage. At what, I don't know.... I have always been drawn to facing that which tears me up inside. I've always pursued knowledge of those things which are ugly in this world because I think there's nothing worse than ignoring those things and living in ignorance of reality, just as much as I have pursued knowledge of those things which are beautiful and think that without that also, life is not all that it can be. So, even though it makes me endlessly angry and I am gagged in that arena, my morbid curiosity always gets the best of me.
Posted by Maria at June 12, 2003 11:36 AM | TrackBackWell, I'm pro-Bush and anti-Madonna, but I can't believe that they kicked you off the website just for making fun of their bitchiness.
I'm going to add you to my blogroll, because I need more liberals to get some balance in there. At my present rate of traffic, you can expect to receive one visitor every three thousand years.
Posted by: Graham Lester at June 12, 2003 12:56 PMHahaa! Thanks Graham. I definitely appreciate it, even if I am a die-hard Madonna fan and I wish George Bush would get trampled by a herd of elephants...LOL! (That's what makes life interesting right?) A very old man once told me "you can't argue with someone who already knows that they're right." Lately, that phrase has taken on more profound meaning for me...
Posted by: Maria at June 12, 2003 02:49 PMmaria
You've read Chosesinconnues postings there I presume. He has become my dearest friend in the world and he's been out of town...anyway I told him that i wasn't ever posting there again because of bullshit like the aboved mentioned. He just emailed me and he is beyond upset. He's had postings deleted, he's been warned on several occassions and look at that shit that has been allowed to stand for days.
It tears at my heart that there are still people out there like this. Our country just went to war and these fucking idiots are talking about a couple whose been together for 25yrs having a smooch in celebration of winning an award.
I suspect the idiot who wrote the first nasty post is around 50, fat, bald, bangs away on his puter in his upstairs room that he refers to as a "loft". I bet his 80yr old mother lives downstairs,prepares all his meals and he still has cowboy and indian bedsheets. The guy probably hasn't had a date since he took his sister to prom....Fucking Pricks....
I admire Choses for being so strong and standing up against that repugnant mob for so long and I totally sympathize with his frustration. I noticed he has resigned himself in this most recent onslaught as it is obvious there is no changing the warped and highly prejudicial opinions which many people share on that site and the manner in which comments are monitered and "debates" conducted. I also admire you Sandy, for not being afraid to go against the grain as so many people obviously are at BH, stumbling over themselves to agree with the spewage of the day. It's that "mob mentality" again. I would hate to see those people if they got physically violent.
You know what else? There are a lot of things going on these days to talk and care about, but they seem to choose the pettiest and most insignificant molehills only to transform them into mountains.
You said: "Our country just went to war and these fucking idiots are talking about a couple whose been together for 25yrs having a smooch in celebration of winning an award." Regardless of what side a person is on in the war debate, what you have said here is very true. There is so much going on in the world and all these people can do is fester about what Susan Sarandon said or how stupid everyone in Hollywod is who opposes war. And then to lump gays into the group of people that they feel like bashing and to delete or ban comments which express opposition and outrage at this view...how fucking low can you go BH? (See if I said that on there, I'd probably be banned all over again). I wish I could let it go, but it deeply disturbs me and I can't seem to ignore it completely though I truly wish I could.
Posted by: Maria at June 13, 2003 11:33 AMMaria
You would not believe the amount of email I have been getting from the regulars at the BH...I am completely overwhelmed by it all. I posted this morning on a thread, but it'll never be the same for me. I guess I think I owe them something ..they were there for me while Jason was gone...I dont' know about any future postings...I looked through the threads and the celebrity bashing thing seems so unimportant right now..
Yeah, celeb bashing IS unimportant. But it's an amusing pastime for those of us with nothing better to do at the moment.
To be fair, I believe THAT particular post got nuked. And yeah, it was a doozy.
And I'm an asshole, Maria.....your first clue was what?
In any regard, please accept my apologies for previous dumbassness..:)
Posted by: evilmike at June 14, 2003 04:49 PMWhy, that's mighty big of you evilmike.
Don't worry, I've seen your kind before... ;o)
Posted by: Maria at June 15, 2003 12:12 PMGreetings Maria et al...
Thanks for the sympathetic references.
A random "Google" search under my pseudonym brought me here.
Sandy!!! Are you all right??
If you're out of BH .. so am I darlin'... it's a testosterone slugfest at this writing. As they say "been there, done that". No interest.
Posted by: Chosesinconnues at June 15, 2003 04:41 PMMaria??
HUH?? You got banned from BH???
What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck???
That homophobe "Tinseltrasher" posts that nasty diatribe about the "Tonys" and his posting stays there and is NEVER deleted nor his IP banned.
Sounds alot like an inside job to me.
I'm beginning to o.d. on that site... no question. I enjoy a lively row but the level of intolerance and downright lack of exposure is enough to send this ol' fairy right over the edge ;)
Posted by: Chosesinconnues at June 15, 2003 04:47 PMI still can't believe I was banned. It was so unbelievable. Both my home and work IPs were banned. For having a silly, childish little verbal sparring with Sandy. Go figure, Sandy and I made amends and have come to relate on a wide range of subjects and in the meantime I wear a gag while visiting BH. Yes I still visit BH. I read and I become irate, but I cannot voice my opinion. I just silently stew and occasionally bitch about it at my own site. So whatever those people say about "appreciating opposing opinions and not silencing people, blah fucking blah" is bullshit. They silenced me. For nothing. I was not even fairly warned and my offense was minor. Simultaneously, they allow and even condone people like Tinseltrasher, MGM and others to be downright malicious, much as the custodians of that website choose to deny it. The simple fact that those people I named and others are still allowed to post there, and I am not, is evidence of the inequities in LisaS's supposed monitoring criteria.
Posted by: Maria at June 15, 2003 08:51 PMWell helllooo Maria...go ahead and just slap me...I should have quit that site while I was ahead, but no had to be a pussy about it...I agreed to go back and nothing changed...I got some nasty emails in my box and told them Bye for the last time and now I hear they have closed down the comment section. It is probably for the best..
Posted by: sandy at June 16, 2003 10:59 AMYes. The comments feature has been discontinued, effectively making BH the most boring site ever. Karma. It's a bitch. Maybe if they would have managed the comment section equitably to begin with, this wouldn't have happened. TOO BAD, SO SAD.
Posted by: Maria at June 16, 2003 03:03 PM*cries 'cuz he can't beat Roggy with a telephone pole anymore*
Oh, well, guess I'll just sit and stare at the walls again...:(
*looks up*
I'm a 'type'?
*peers suspiciously at maria*
Ok, I'll bite....what type am I?
*braces himself*
You will never, ever know, Chose, just how much willpower it took for me to be...um...'polite' to TT after I saw his website....it didn't take him long to bleed over onto BH either.
Cripes.
Posted by: evilmike at June 16, 2003 04:50 PMYup. His website is a "site" to behold all right.
Well. Looks like ol' BH has just become a place for the few to promote their own agenda with no threat of contradiction or accountability.
Actually, I'm surprised at LisaS and Reilly's decision to shut down the posting sector. Reilly put up that thread so we could "work through" what had transpired... then he castigated us for doing same.. Odd no?
I maintain that I well NEVER understand why they allowed TT's 'dual personality' posting to remain there and not ban his IP... I swear somthin's up with that.
Who IS this 'GREG QUINN' anyway???
So many others were blasted into orbit for a fraction of the offense.
Posted by: Chosesinconnues at June 16, 2003 04:59 PMI am actually kind of sad because the only thing I enjoyed about that site was the comment madness even when it drove me to distraction that I couldn't put in my two cents occasionally - I think it was better that way. Now it's just...tired. I do derive some perverted pleasure from the idea of BH going down the toilet, I'll admit it.
evilmike, I once had an english teacher who pretended to be grumpy every single day. I was the only one who ever had the guts to poke fun at him because I had a feeling that he was only acting grumpy. I poked enough that I would get a sideways smile out of him every once and awhile. I think maybe you are kind of like that? Pretending to be evil because it fulfills your little boyish need to rebel and torment. That's cool. I can dig it. I like to think I have a sense of humor... ;)
Posted by: Maria at June 16, 2003 06:13 PM'Pretending to be evil.....'
Unfortunately, no pretense required. But I try to keep my sense of humor and objectivity intact.
I didn't 'pick' my nickname...got chosen for me by my peers while in Lebanon. And no, you truly DON'T want to know why. Trust me on this.
All that can be said is that hey, it's their site, they can run it the way they see fit. Nobody MADE anybody go there. But a consistent policy would've been nice to see.
Hell, I had a pool going on when they would ban ME.
Posted by: evilmike at June 16, 2003 07:17 PMYou said it, if I was banned, you definitely should have been banned! LOL! I won't ask where you got the nickname. You're probably a fucking cannibal or something. >:oP
Anyway. I don't know how the hell it is possible, but a comment I made to the Ollie North thread on BH this morning, miraculously slipped through! That's the first post I've been able to make in weeks. So weird. I wonder if they will delete it...
Posted by: Maria at June 16, 2003 07:27 PMProbably happened seconds before they shut down the comment feature. And I doubt they'll bother....so there's your fame...you were probably the Last Post They Ever Had..:)
Posted by: evilmike at June 16, 2003 08:03 PMLooks like Lisa and the gang over at BH are going to give the comments thing another try....have a more 'professional' looking BBS, it appears.
Best of luck, says I.
Posted by: evilmike at June 19, 2003 11:00 PM